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David French
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Hello all,

I have used all the versions of the Devano rising Cards, Pins, sticky tabs. Arne, Martini, Richback. I have settled on the Martini as it is the best for me, however even this deck will sometimes have the selectd cards rise slowly or quickly. Sometimes I can not contol how quickly the cards rise even with the amount of cards on top or the angle of the deck.

My question is do you prefer the selections to rise quickly or slowly? If the deck gets "stubborn" and rises very slowly or the card takes a while to beging rising, what do you do? Have ad libs...?

Just looking for some real world ideas.

thanks so much!!

David
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All the decks work on the same principle... some decks work better than others... I have a martini deck that works OK, an Arne deck I bought from Viking that doesn't work at all, and a Loftus deck that works better than any deck I have ever owned. They are all constructed exactly alike.

Take the gimmick and shake it up and down a couple of times before your performance to loosen the weight a little bit.
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Davano by Richbark is the best. Keep the deck away from humidity and being bent. Loews sells a little tin box that is a great deck protector while it is not being performed...

Good Luck,

Hitch
David French
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Thanks guys,

I was looking more for how you handle the situations described.

thanks,

David
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Watch how Don Alan handles the deck in the L&L video. In Ron Bower's booklet on the Devano it is explained, You just take the deck and adjust it again and try over... the audience doesn't know what you are doing and you just don't make a big deal out of it. If the weight is not moving you can shack the gimmick up and down a few times to loosen it up. I usually do this as I bring the deck out, if I know the deck has been problem.
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I'm lucky I have a Howard Bamman deck, he made them for Don Alan.
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On 2010-02-22 13:14, David French wrote:
Hello all,

I have used all the versions of the Devano rising Cards, Pins, sticky tabs. Arne, Martini, Richback. I have settled on the Martini as it is the best for me, however even this deck will sometimes have the selectd cards rise slowly or quickly. Sometimes I can not contol how quickly the cards rise even with the amount of cards on top or the angle of the deck.

My question is do you prefer the selections to rise quickly or slowly? If the deck gets "stubborn" and rises very slowly or the card takes a while to beging rising, what do you do? Have ad libs...?

Just looking for some real world ideas.

thanks so much!!

David


I prefer slowly
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Slowly... as I concentrate intently on the pack, and (also slowly) wave my hand and/or wiggle my fingers over it.

As long as I can see it starting to move, I just go with it... mine tend to speed up as the selected card moves along, and I like that... it's like I'm gaining "traction".

If it doesn't move at all, well, then it's time to pick up the pack and re-adjust.
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Observe Whit Haydn's handling here:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6361190693734662025

At around the 2'10" mark, the second chosen card has risen, but apparently not far enough, so Mr Haydn presses down on the fingers of the spectator holding the deck. This probably released some of the pressure on the cards, easing the way for the chosen card to rise.

I am not convinced this is the best method, as touching the spectator's hand seems unmotivated. And, though Mr Haydn does mumble something about keeping the hand down so as not to give him a "mental hernia" (which got a laugh), it seemed like the spectator holding the deck was somewhat confused by his actions.

I suppose this is the risk one takes when putting such a gimmick in a spectator's hand. Maybe with some different patter it would go over better. Still, even as it was, it did get a good reaction when the card rose some more.
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On Feb 22, 2010, misterbill wrote:
All the decks work on the same principle... some decks work better than others... I have a martini deck that works OK, an Arne deck I bought from Viking that doesn't work at all, and a Loftus deck that works better than any deck I have ever owned. They are all constructed exactly alike.

Take the gimmick and shake it up and down a couple of times before your performance to loosen the weight a little bit.


To set the record straight, I had Martini confused with Galdini. Lonnie Galdini to be exact. I don't think he still makes rising decks but back then his decks were stocked in the Fun Shop Memphis (now closed Smile )

Also... I actually purchased a Martini Card Rise by Marty Grams recently and it is an excellent unit! Works perfect right out of the box and uses a court card on the gimmick unlike the others listed above.

I don't know who made the Arne deck that Viking sold me but it was constructed just like the Loftus/Empire deck but it didn't work at all. Murphy's magic sells one too but I imagine it is the same as the mass marketed Loftus version. I'm not sure who is making those either, but they are Arne type.
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