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Astrocity
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Cesar,
I originally built my site using Dreamweaver. While it a WYSIWYG (What You See Is What You Get) type of software and allows for building websites without getting into HTML coding, I found it to be tedious, confusing and difficult to work with myslef. It is very powerful, but I found that I had to do a good deal of trial and error to get what I wanted out of it. It was a long process and very frustrating at times. A fellow magician, Austin Brooks, told me about Net Objects Fusion 11. It was like the heavens opened up and the angels sang! This software is just as powerful and complete as Dreamweaver, but it is 10 times easier to use! Everything is laid out easily, it contains a ton of style sheets and some templates, and it just makes sense as you work out your site. It utilizes property boxes for everything from pages, to master borders, to pictures, forms and text boxes. I re-built my site that originally took me about 25-30 hours to build, in less than 4 hours! On top of that, the site came out 10 times more professional looking!! I highly recommend NetObjects Fusion 11 to anyone who wants to build their own site or does not have the money to pay someone else to do it. Here is the website:

http://netobjects.com/

Hope it helps some people out,
Hank
Hank Morfin
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Hank Morfin Rocks!
Dennis Michael
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Let me put my Two cent's into this discussion. I have 20 years of coding, and self taught in multiple areas. HTML, CSS, Dreamweaver, Flash, Word Press and others.

Web design is not easy to learn. Especially graphic design.

Flash Websites are pretty and coming into the picture more often. They seem must for large illusion show type shows. Learning Flash is hard work, and the skills learned are easily lost if not using it continuously. Modifying templates makes the job much easier but it also takes skill and considerable time to do this to learn to do this. If you are unwilling to spend months learning Flash, then don't try this on your own. Doing a unique Flash site for the newbie is takes a much longer commitment to learn Flash.
Example of a converted Template Flash Website: Jeff Carson Magic

Example of simple Flash Purchased Websites by a designer:
Ken Scott
Bruce Bray
Sites look very similar, different Market Areas and are clean well designed, and expensive. Still cannot edited them easily, must go through designer. This is a good choice for getting up and running without loss of time for the heavy working magician. Designers have thought of things most magicians haven't even considered.

Dreamweaver: Like flash it requires a learning curve but it does create clean designs.

HTML: well this is still the most prominent method of we design creations. It requires learning a lot of code and also requires a learning curve.

The easiest and best method to learn is a CSS designed website. CSS allows a stylesheet to be created and then using simple HTML codes like bold, or the paragraph statement to create a decent web page.
Right click and look at the source code for this web site:
http://www.kidabra.org/about.htm
Notice how easily the CONTENT can be changed. This is a little more complex CSS design but modifications once designed are 100 times easier than straight HTML.

Here is a simple good looking page.
http://www.kidabra.org/member/DennisDowhy/index.htm
It uses 3 graphics: The menu graphic, the backgound "stars" animation graphic, and a blue side bar graphic. These are pointed to by the style sheet code. Just change the graphics and a whole new design is created.

The number of pages is simply copying the existing list code and changing the name of the pages.
Want a new menu? Well here is a free menu creator, where you just change the Menu Code in the style.css with the code created by the program.
Get the CSS Tab Designer at: http://www.highdots.com/css-tab-designer/

There is a lot of other good information at this site
For the Beginner, this is the way to go.
Dennis Michael
Cesar Munoz
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Hank,

Thanks--I'll check it out.

Cesar
monstercreations
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Hmm... I'll bung my 50 pence worth in...
The coding of the site is the easy part... the hard part is the design of the site.
Wordpress is nice and friendly but you still need the site designed.
Elements of Flash in a site are ok but a whole flash site is still a bit of a no go.
The Jeff Carson Site is poorly implemented it took nearly 20 seconds to load and by this time I wouldn't have bothered. Also all that lovely text is wasted for SEO as it's in Flash!
I still don't get (and I know I will get flamed for this!) why magicians will spend 100's of bucks on magic tricks and props but are still unwilling to spend out on good promotional photos and websites!
cheers,
Ade
MikeClay
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Ade,

It's not just magicians..
I have consulted with business owners who are not in the entertainment arena who spent THOUSANDS on direct mail or telemarketing and didn't have any way to know if it worked or a way to track what they where doing.

Then complained when we mention the price for a Marketing Strategy (that is guaranteed) that includes a website.

almost all industries have this issue...

what drives me crazy is how many people spend money on marketing websites and so on and don't even have a business plan, much less a marketing plan (man I have really been hung up on marketing plans this thread.. whats my problem)
Dynamike
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Check out the website builders software ratings:

http://website-creation-software-review.toptenreviews.com/
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