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Your the best, I was wondering if you could tell me authors or any other information though.
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The author of The Art of Jugling is given only as S.R. or Sa. Rid. Some people think his name was Samuel Rid. That's conjecture, though. The author of Rogues, Vagabonds and Sturdy Beggars is given as Arthur F. Kinney, editor and John Laurence, illustrator. I just noticed that it is available in paperback on Amazon.com.
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J.G :

There's an excellent deal over at the Miracle Factory website (Todd Karr) . For only $30, you can buy a CD that has pdf copies of the seminal magic classics, including the Art of Jugling, no fewer than six different editions of Hocus Pocus Jr., four different editions of Hocus Pocus, and several editions of the Discoverie of Witchcraft, and a few other books as well. It won't give you the tactile sensation of holding a book in your hands but for $30 and 2,500 pages, hard to beat a price like that.

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That's not a bad deal at all. I have most of these as photocopies, I think; however, back when I got them, it required some real searching to find them.

The biggest advantage of the Arthur Kinney book is that it is in modern type.

I found some real gems at the Miracle Factory web site. It is definitely worth a visit.
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Indeed it is.
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On 2010-12-14 18:23, fortasse wrote:
J.G :

There's an excellent deal over at the Miracle Factory website (Todd Karr) . For only $30, you can buy a CD that has pdf copies of the seminal magic classics, including the Art of Jugling, no fewer than six different editions of Hocus Pocus Jr., four different editions of Hocus Pocus, and several editions of the Discoverie of Witchcraft, and a few other books as well. It won't give you the tactile sensation of holding a book in your hands but for $30 and 2,500 pages, hard to beat a price like that.

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Wow thanks!
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On 2010-12-14 17:04, Bill Palmer wrote:
The author of The Art of Jugling is given only as S.R. or Sa. Rid. Some people think his name was Samuel Rid. That's conjecture, though. The author of Rogues, Vagabonds and Sturdy Beggars is given as Arthur F. Kinney, editor and John Laurence, illustrator. I just noticed that it is available in paperback on Amazon.com.



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You are welcome. Byron Walker or Claude Crowe pointed me toward that book a few years back. Now copies of Art of Jugling are quite plentiful.
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Regarding the Art Of Jugling when I googled it I only found a few good sites. The cheapest I found it was on Miracle Factory for $50 I was unable to find the $30 C.D. edition. Could someone direct me to the $30 C.D. I looked around the site but was unable to find it. Also any other sites with good prices.
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Thanks Woland I was looking for a different title.
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On Mar 2, 2010, fortasse wrote:

And finally, the COLOUR of the balls. Why has red become the most popular colour? Is it because most table tops or pads tend to be black, making black balls unsuitable for contrast? Or is it perhaps because black clothing has become more the norm for the modern magician, again, making black balls unsuitable for contrast.

What do you think? Why are the balls today generally bigger, quieter and more brightly coloured than in the past?

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An old thread, but this point was not made in the previous posts:
From an designer/artist's point of view:
Of all of the bright colors, each has it's own advantages and disadvantages. White and yellow balls show up wonderfully, but they are easily stained or discolored. I have a perfectly good white crochet load ball that I no longer use due to a stain. Speaking practically, red is the best of both worlds. It shows up well, provides contrast (unless you wear a red suit or use a red close up pad) and hides the dirt better.
If you are handling a cloth prop on a regular basis, then it will absorb the dirt and oils from your hands, as well as patina from your cups and whatever happens to get onto your table. If you drop them, anything is possible. Since the crochet balls really cannot be washed (if they can, PLEASE let me know how), the magician is left using what he/she can that does not blend in with or clash against what they wear.
Manufactures know that they must appeal to the largest group of people to be able to sell their wares. This is the same thought process I went through when deciding upon a color for tying monkey's fists of suede around my spheres. I too, chose red.
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Since the crochet balls really cannot be washed (if they can, PLEASE let me know how)....


The Rings-n-Things website advises: "Our Crochet Balls [which have hardwood cores] can be safely laundered in cold water (to preserve color) and detergent. It is highly recommended that the balls be placed in a lingerie bag or some other mesh bag that would be used for delicate fabrics. This ensures that the balls will not get trapped in recesses in the washer or get lost in the washer. Simply put the balls in a mesh bag and throw them in with other cold water laundry to keep them clean and fresh. Air-dry the balls. It is not recommended that the balls be placed in a dryer."
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