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Metatron Elite user Port Orchard, Washington 436 Posts |
Anybody have this or seen it? This is the description from Abbott's Catalog
Miracle Rope This is the original! A length of unprepared rope is shown and cut into two pieces by a spectator. The magician holds one piece in each hand - hands may be widely separated. He waves the ends of the rope together and, in a flash, the pieces seem to visibly melt together into one piece. This rope is the same length as first shown and may immediately be given out for examination. Magicians have marveled at this rope trick and many have tried to duplicate it without success - and now it can be yours. No snap or screw gimmicks - no magnets - no wires and no threads. The rope can be marked for future identification. It can be immediately thrown out for examination - there is no exchange or fussing. This effect was part of a professional’s act for many years before it was released to the magical fraternity - all the performing and presentation details are included. No special rope required. Absolutely clean - the method is undetectable. This one astounds magicians! Created by Bill Neff. Any reviews? Metatron |
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Metatron Elite user Port Orchard, Washington 436 Posts |
The only things I can think of, is a Gravity H**d**t, Invisible Hand or a P*ll. But wouldn't that be considered swap or exchange?
Any thoughts? Metatron |
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magicians Inner circle Teacher and Legend 2898 Posts |
This is Bill Neff's rope restoration, originated in the 50's and although there is a knack to it, it is a wonderful effect.
Comes with a secret gimmick or manuscript to make it. Abbott's is probably the only dealer with the rights to it. ---------------- It is not a gravity H**d**t, but is along those lines. There is no swap though. Just a bold move and a simple gimmick.
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Spellbinder Inner circle The Holy City of East Orange, NJ 6438 Posts |
You'll find it (Neff's Miracle Rope) included in Stewart James' "Encyclopedia of Rope Tricks." Why buy one rope effect when you can buy hundreds for the same price?
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KOTAH Inner circle 2289 Posts |
I have seen old reel type movie clips of Neff performing this. visually, it is as if youve just seen a real miracle. Avery impressive and memorable rope effect in his hands, but it does indeed take a knack to do it well. Just as ian says.
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Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts |
Love this cut and restored rope effect, it is a real miracle. Personally, I never had a problem with it. I must have been blessed with the knack. Purchased it 40 or 50 years ago.
It is not done much because it does take preparation. It also requires a piece of new rope for each performance. Thus it is best to by the rope by the spool. You are left with a piece of rope the same size you started with, so you can continue with your favorite rope routine with an ordinary piece of rope. This is the closest thing to real magic there is in rope magic. |
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Metatron Elite user Port Orchard, Washington 436 Posts |
Thanks Ian, I think I get it now. If I am right, The restoration would look great, but the handling of the 'cutting' part would be rather difficult to do smoothly. Was this used as an Opener by Mr. Neff?
Spellbinder, I can't find it in "The Encyclopedia of Rope Tricks" 1974 Dover Edition. It's not listed in the Index under Neff's Miracle Rope or Miracle Rope. Got a page number? Do you think they removed it. Strange. Metatron |
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Metatron Elite user Port Orchard, Washington 436 Posts |
Wmhegbli,
Thanks for the review. I think I will get it based on your review. If it is in The Encyclopedia and I just missed it, I would feel bad now. I better read that book cover to cover first. I get side tracked every time I try! Sure sounds like a great trick in the description, but I've fell for that a million times ... descriptions that just don't match the reality of the effect, if you know what I mean. Anyone else do this? Any video out there? Thanks Everybody, Metatron |
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Al Angello Eternal Order Collegeville, Pa. USA 11045 Posts |
Metatron
When Mr. Neff did this trick it was his first trick. You are looking in the wrong encyclopedia. This trick is in the Stewart James rope magic encyclopedia.
Al Angello The Comic Juggler/Magician
http://www.juggleral.com http://home.comcast.net/~juggleral/ "Footprints on your ceiling are almost gone" |
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Metatron Elite user Port Orchard, Washington 436 Posts |
Thanks Al Angello,
Got it pegged now, at least the method. Just have to work out the handling now. Yep, wrong encyclopedia. I have Abbott's "Encyclopedia of Rope Tricks" which was compiled by Stewart James, but I see they now have one called Stewart James' "Encyclopedia of Rope Tricks" expanded and revised edition. Thanks again, Metatron |
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Pete Biro 1933 - 2018 18558 Posts |
I have done this forever... I do a "broken and restore" just tearing the rope in two (rubber cement) and SHOT AND RESTORED WITH SPECTATOR shooting a gun at the rope. You can revise the handling so you can cut the rope, but is easier if you have an assistant do it.
STAY TOONED... @ www.pete-biro.com
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Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts |
Metatron, No you do not have to use this effect as a opener. The instructions describes a very good gag to make it possible to do the effect anytime you wish.
Bill Neff was before my time by a few years. It is my understanding that he performed a full evening Illusion show. So how he used this effect in his show, I do not know. It very well may have been an 'in between' smaller effect with audience participation. One last thing, you have to wear a men's jacket. |
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Metatron Elite user Port Orchard, Washington 436 Posts |
Thanks everybody,
Looks like a winner. I'll definitely purchase this one. It looks like a great trick with only a few great magicians doing it! Pete Biro, thanks for the tip on the rubber cement. Wmhegbli, I figured the coat was necessary, but didn't want to use it as an opener. Glad to know there is a work around to fit it in elsewhere. Kotah, is that old movie clip on-line anywhere? Thanks to all who responded here: magicIANs, Spellbinder, KOTAH, wmhegbli, Al Angello, Pete Biro. You've made me a believer in the Magic Café. What a great resource this is. Wish I would have had this 40 years ago! This new crop of magicians don't realize how great they have it. Thank You Steve Brooks - Your THE MAN |
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KOTAH Inner circle 2289 Posts |
Old movie clip, I saw it on a television show many years ago. I do not know if Neff clips exist somewhere on the inter net or not. I believe, because of the set-up, it is basically anopener, but I could be mistaken.
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John Long Inner circle New Jersey 2826 Posts |
P132 of the new Ency of Rope Tricks describes Neff's Miracle Rope. As mentioned, I don't it is in the Dover reprint .
While looking this up, I read of Burling Hull's Miracle Rope: a single piece of rope is thrown into the audience, it is cut and tied together by a spectator who then tosses it back to the performer. With bare hands, the magi restores the rope to 1 piece by causing the knot to visibly dissolve. Now doesn't that sound interesting?
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Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts |
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On 2010-03-20 18:28, John Long wrote: Burling Hull's is not Bill Neff's or visa versa, they are not the same person. In the Neff version, the ropes are not tied. The spectator is brought on stage, the magician holds the rope and the spectator cuts the rope somewhere in the middle. The ends are swung towards each other and the rope is restored into one piece. The spectator can have the rope, or you could continue with any trick using an ordinary length of rope. |
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Al Angello Eternal Order Collegeville, Pa. USA 11045 Posts |
Thanks for the tip John I'll have to look that one up. I already studied the Neff trick.
Al Angello The Comic Juggler/Magician
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daffydoug Eternal Order Look mom! I've got 14077 Posts |
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On 2010-03-05 14:28, Metatron wrote: Sounds hauntingly similar to one that Doug Henning performed on his Bruce Jenner special. And that used a p**l. Bu the visual on it was great. In Doug's hands, it did indeed look like a miracle.
The difficult must become easy, the easy beautiful and the beautiful magical.
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Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts |
No Doug Henning used a totally different method, it did not use a pull, it used reels used by his assistants. (Sorry, cannot remember the magician to give credit properly, was it Paul Curry.) Then while touring he used the Jim Steinmeyer version.
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daffydoug Eternal Order Look mom! I've got 14077 Posts |
I'm not sure if we are talking about the same special. The one that I am referring about, I have on VHS vid tape. I watched it in SLOW MOTION, (and freeze frame), and I clearly saw the ropes shoot up his sl***es, possibly a h***d**t. Why would this take off stage assistants to accomplish?
The difficult must become easy, the easy beautiful and the beautiful magical.
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