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Chezaday Inner circle Naperville, IL 1673 Posts |
So, here's the situation. I need to line the inside of an ATA style case with carpet. I'm going to use contact on both surfaces, let it sit for a little bit and then slap them together. I guess the best way to apply the glue to each surface is with a brush .. right?
Anything I'm missing here before I make a mess? Steve |
Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts |
I have used both white glue and Contact glue, the best method is to apply to both surfaces with contact cement. After doing it with a brush, I suggest the spray can method. It does not spread as well on the cloth. You should paint the wood if it does not have a sealer on the wood, as the 1st coat of contact glue will sink into the wood and you will have to coat with glue again if not primed. I suggest 'Bin' Primer paint. If you ATA case is made with the chip board, then it is probably already weather proofed and one coat should work.
White glue is much easier, just thin a little with water and brush or roll on, some of the better white glue is the Universal brand. I have found that after many years, contact glue dries out and may come off. White Glue does not. But white glue can be affect with moisture and Contact is not. For carpet you may want to get a carpet glue, depending on the weight of the carpet you are using. Most of my experience with covering has been with cloth and vinyl with cloth backing. |
Michael Baker Eternal Order Near a river in the Midwest 11172 Posts |
Steve,
There is a type of glue that I saw the guy use who installed the carpet in my basement (directly onto a concrete floor). If I recall, it was applied with a trowel. I'd talk to the carpet folks at Lowes or some other DIY store and see what that stuff is. It is meant to be walked on, which is more abuse than the inside of a case will likely take. Years later, it was no simple matter to pull it up after a flood. It held very well, and if I recall, did not have the toxic/flammable fumes issue that some contact cements (like Weldwood) do when it went down. ~michael
~michael baker
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Zarazza New user 15 Posts |
I have used both a brush and spray and if I had to do it again I would without a doubt use the spray contact cement.
Zack |
Chezaday Inner circle Naperville, IL 1673 Posts |
Is there such a thing as spray contact cement? I've used a 3M product that's a spray on adhesive .. is that what you're talking about?
Steve |
Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts |
Yes, there is such a thing as spray contact cement, by duco and the one you suggest, check out a hardware store like ACE. They have the chemical contact glue and also a water based contact cement.
After thinking you want to glue carpet, I believe that contact cement would not be the correct adhesive for carpet. Contact cement is not a load bearing glue. I believe it would be better to take Michael Baker's suggestion and seek advice from a carpet or flooring center. They may have a thinner adhesive then tile cement for this purpose. They do put carpet up on walls as a kick board and higher for design. Also contact cement usually only last 7 to 10 years and dries out and has to be reapplied. |
Chance Inner circle 1385 Posts |
Standard practice when making an ATA case is contact cement. At least it was for the 5 custom cases I've had made for me over the past 12 years. It works fine under normal usage.
Spray cement is for much lighter usages, generally speaking. Not recommended for ATA cases I would think. For DIY work for heavy duty conditions, I usually pour it over the work area straight from the can in a zig-zag ribbon and then trowel it around with a piece of scrap cardboard until all the surface is covered. Same goes for both sides of the project. Let it set up for 20-30 minutes (the heavier the application, the more time to give it) and you're all set. If you pay special attention to the leading edges you won't need to worry about it peeling off during normal usage. Use a rubber mallet to press it into place and make sure to get all the air bubbles out. NOTE: Always have MORE ventilation that you think you need. Have 2 fans running at all times. Vent to the OUTSIDE. Venting to just the next room does not count!!! And make sure never to work around any kind of open flame or pilot lights with this type of material. |
thegreatnippulini Inner circle of Hell because I've made 2582 Posts |
...or do it outdoors. I usually apply paint and toxic fumey stuff right behind the shop door in the yard. Disregard during rain squalls.
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miscoes New user Allariz, Spain 94 Posts |
3M Mount is the way for light use...
... and you have also 3M Remout for repositionable adhesive. |
Chezaday Inner circle Naperville, IL 1673 Posts |
So, I gave it a shot with the contact cement and .. it actually worked like a charm. I was surprised myself with the results. I simply used a roller on the carpet and the wood, let it sit for about five minutes and slapped them together.
The process is the same as with Formica but, the carpet is forgiving. You can still reposition it while it's wet, you only get one shot with Formica. I can't tell you how pleased I am with the results .. this doesn't happen often with my first try. Thanks again for all the great tips .. you're the best! Steve |
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