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Eshla Inner circle 1239 Posts |
I know people will tell me to use the search button, but I have and it mentions nothing but methods, or doesn't work at all.
I wanted to include a blindfolded act to my show. My origional idea was to come up and judge peoples age, hair colour, race and so on, by using various methods like clicking noices and touching. I don't claim psychic ability, only body language reading and that sort of stuff; which limits what I can do. My worry is that the routine will get boring very quickly, as it will simply be describing someone's looks on stage. I thought about adding some cold reading to it, to make it more impressive; but I'm not sure and don't have much CR experiance. Any suggestions? I love the idea of a blindfolded routine, but I'm not sure what I want to do with it. Tom xx
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parmenion Inner circle Switzerland/Zürich 3988 Posts |
Please, please, no more.
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Matthew Townsend Inner circle 1302 Posts |
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On 2010-04-03 06:41, parmenion wrote: Ditto M |
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IAIN Eternal Order england 18807 Posts |
Why not just copy what derren did on one of his early shows?
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Dick Christian Inner circle Northern Virginia (Metro DC) 2619 Posts |
Eshla,
People keep trying to tell you to GO AWAY -- you keep asking questions then rejecting the answers because they aren't what you want to hear. You are simply wasting bandwidth and everyone's time. Just GO AWAY!
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Eshla Inner circle 1239 Posts |
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On 2010-04-03 07:45, IAIN wrote: He has only done one so far as I know, and in my opinion it wasn't very good and completely impractical for stage even if it were. Plus there are enough ways to do a truth/liar game already. (357) I know you are trying to be cruel and fesitious when you suggest things like this, but my hope is that I am wrong and you are in fact trying to be kind and helpful. Good human nature exists in everyone somewhere. As for the accusation that I reject ideas, so far no one has posted any ideas/suggestions/tips and so forth. I have checked through Corinda and PMM, but they mostly involve blinded drives or two person telepathy. I am not here to reject ideas, and there is absolutly nothing wrong with my opening post. Had this post been made by someone with a different name, you may have tried to be mature and helpful, instead the opposit is true. Is it too much to ask a very simple question? How about if I promise not to respond to any suggestions at all, thus meaning I cannot poke holes in them?
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kozmic kettle Regular user 123 Posts |
Tom,
I'd advise against a blindfold routine with that premise. You will have seen the audience before you put the blindfold on, so that takes away much of the effect. Also, you run a big risk of causing embarrassment by pointing out physical characteristics that your volunteers might be sensitive about - or pointing out how old they look. People are easily offended if you describe them in a way that doesn’t match the way that they want other people to see them. |
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Eshla Inner circle 1239 Posts |
You make a good point Kozmic Kettle. I am not known for my subtly!
I'd still enjoy to perform a blindfolded routine, but I fear that it must be left for a walk around hampton court maze.
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Stephen Young Inner circle Thought Illusions 3933 Posts |
Maybe it would work if, once the blindfold was on, the specs put on masks or hats which you could then describe.
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IAIN Eternal Order england 18807 Posts |
"but they mostly involve blinded drives or two person telepathy"
you sure about that?
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Eshla Inner circle 1239 Posts |
Yes, or else they involve the idea of being able to see through the blindfold, which is not the point. I don't blaim the psychic ability to see through the blindfold, and I don't want too; its not very me.
If you know of an exception, please tell me? Edit: To explain my point further, I do not want the audience to think I can see them in anyway, either by psychic ability, fake blindfold or other. I want them to think I am using other methods, such as clicking noices to judge distance and so on.
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Matthew Townsend Inner circle 1302 Posts |
Ok here is my HONEST advice.
Don't do a blindfold act. You are not experienced enough to do one. Learn 5 effects that suit your performance style. Learn them until you are sick to your teeth of doing them. Then learn them some more. Practice and practice until your fingers bleed. Make sure these 5 effects are varied enough to be different but are still within the relm of reality that will fit with your performance. ONLY THEN do you perform for people. Do it in the streets or at parties. Do it for free and at pubs and local clubs. Build a name for yourself and ONLY THEN do you even THINK about doing this professionally. You say you present this as a body language / NLP style of performance so if you REALLY did posses the ability to read body language to an amazing degree, what sort of things would that person demondatrate? Memory effects come to mind, Truth / Liar effects, Can you do a drawing duplication JUST by using NLP and body language? If so, then you need to give a rational explanation as to whyy you can acomplish these feats. If you really could tell someones sex, race, hair colour, dress sence etc whilst blindfolded. Do you think that some people might get a little freaked out if you started touching them??? Like I said, forget the blindfold act. It is too advanced for you at the moment. My advice is to learn 3 different methods for 5 different effects. Practice for as long as it takes. It will take longer than 6 months. If you think you can perform an effect afetr a few weeks of practice then just stop performing alltogether. EVERYTHING needs to be thought about. Where you stand, the things you say, the way you say it, how you act, what you arms are doing whilst you are saying something, where you are looking, and that's just in between effects. Go back to step one. Start from scratch and leanr things the hard way. Accept failire cos you are gonna get it! You are gonna get praise, abuse, hatred, love and you need to be able to deal with all of this in a professional way. I might be going on and on but you really need to take all of this in. DROP EVERYTHING YOU ARE DOING NOW and start all over again. 3 methods for 5 effects. that's it. All I perform is metal bending, direct mind reading, predicions, sightless vision and element manipulation. that's it. I don't use cards or fancy props. If it think an effect is too much "fancy" then I wont use it. I have dropped chair acts, card effects, gag effects, coincidence effects, bank night effects, gambling effects, diary effects, even some really cool impromptu effects that just use business cards, hell I have dropped a ton of effects from my act so I have a more realistic "character" if one was to use such a word. If it doesn't fit my performance style or the type of mind reader I am portraying then I wont use it. So what 5 effects can you perform?? If I was you and doing the whole body language / NLP thing then I would go for these 5: Drawing Dupe - Based around second guessing what the person will draw Memory Demonstration - This could be a book test or a standard 20 words demonstration Truth / Liar effect - There are billions of them but I like Marc Pauls True Lies. I still use this but not as a truth / liar presentation. Predicting the actions of someone - Possibly predicting the outcome of a game of musical chairs or pass the parcle. (But putting a metal twist on the games of course) Psycometry - by the powers of subtle body cues you can return the correct itme to the correct person and also tell something about the person just by examining their object. that's all I would do for now if I was you. Maybe branch later when you have had a few years of experience and you feel you can make the appropriate decision as to what ability / effect to start using. Can you now do hypnosis? can you now use suggestion and psychological forcing? Can you now do muscle reading??? THINK MAN THINK!!!!!!! Print this out, read it over and over again and PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD listen to what I said. Im not gonna post again to any of your posts if you decide to post again (which I strongly advise against until you actually have something to bring to the community) since I have said what everyone has said before but I might have explained this in a slightly more calm tone. The reason we get annoyed with you is because you don't listen to our advice. It might seem like to you that you do take it in but you don't. Since every post you make is a request of something that you CAN find with the search button, (dont tell me you cant bacuse I was once on your shoes and I found the serahc button to be of great help) Look I'm gonna stop my rant now cos I might get worked up but please please please please please please please LISTEN to my post. I AM TRYING TO HELP YOU 3 METHODS FOR 5 EFFECTS. NOTHING ELSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! M |
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John C Eternal Order I THINK therefore I wrote 12945 Posts |
Eshla, Eshla, Eshla ... the blind leading the blind.
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Eshla Inner circle 1239 Posts |
"Drawing Dupe - Based around second guessing what the person will draw"
I have performed this effect hundreds of times now, I'm not sure exactly how many. I started by trying a peek, but now use the Butterfly. "Memory Demonstration - This could be a book test or a standard 20 words demonstration" I perform this to 50 if I am bored, with a long break between writing them down and remembering them. I generally only do to 25 however. "Truth / Liar effect - There are billions of them but I like Marc Pauls True Lies. I still use this but not as a truth / liar presentation." I do this with Prevaricator, I am not very good at it actually. Not sure exactly what my hit rate is, but its well above 90%. I also perform 357, which is an incredible opener and I now regularly bet 50 quid on it a go; never lost any money yet. "Predicting the actions of someone - Possibly predicting the outcome of a game of musical chairs or pass the parcle. (But putting a metal twist on the games of course)" I use a couple of card effects to do this, and present them as a "Psychological force". Smart-ass and my own version of crossroads. "Pspyometry - by the powers of subtle body cues you can return the correct itme to the correct person and also tell something about the person just by examining their object." I've never tried this, but it does give me a few ideas. It sounds fun and I'll see what I can do.
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Amirá Inner circle MentalismCenter.com 5131 Posts |
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On 2010-04-03 08:52, Matthew Shepherd wrote: Very kind of your part Mattz Eshla.... listen and don't open more topics. Is funny and annoying what are you doing (With a helping tone of voice)
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Matthew Townsend Inner circle 1302 Posts |
"Drawing Dupe - Based around second guessing what the person will draw"
I have performed this effect hundreds of times now, I'm not sure exactly how many. I started by trying a peek, but now use the Butterfly. -You started off with trying a peek but now you use the Butterfly....... WTF?????- "Memory Demonstration - This could be a book test or a standard 20 words demonstration" I perform this to 50 if I am bored, with a long break between writing them down and remembering them. I generally only do to 25 however. -Wow your act must be exciting if you are bored and take a long break between writing them down and remembering them- "Truth / Liar effect - There are billions of them but I like Marc Pauls True Lies. I still use this but not as a truth / liar presentation." I do this with Prevaricator, I am not very good at it actually. Not sure exactly what my hit rate is, but its well above 90%. I also perform 357, which is an incredible opener and I now regularly bet 50 quid on it a go; never lost any money yet. -Yeah I know what you mean, I only got 93% on my driving test so I'm not very good at driving. Also I got 96% on my English test I took at school so I guess I might as well just start mumbling and trowing my own crap at people- "Predicting the actions of someone - Possibly predicting the outcome of a game of musical chairs or pass the parcle. (But putting a metal twist on the games of course)" I use a couple of card effects to do this, and present them as a "Psychological force". Smart-ass and my own version of crossroads. -Thats not the same thing..... AT ALL- "Pspyometry - by the powers of subtle body cues you can return the correct itme to the correct person and also tell something about the person just by examining their object." I've never tried this, but it does give me a few ideas. It sounds fun and I'll see what I can do. -Please don't. I have changed my mind, you are a lost cause- You see you got me so mad I actually betrayted my last post by posting to your nonsense again. GOD *** IT!!!!!!! M |
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Eshla Inner circle 1239 Posts |
Please try and be mature about this; is it not obvious that the word 'not' was a mistype?
Also, the Buttefly is an I** pad in case you didn't know.
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Matthew Townsend Inner circle 1302 Posts |
And do you not peek at an i********n??????
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Eshla Inner circle 1239 Posts |
... How old are you? I imagine older than me, and yet you are being so pedantic.
When I refered to a peek I was refering to a tear, not an I** pad.
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Matthew Townsend Inner circle 1302 Posts |
I am 25. I imagine you are younger than me, and yet I am not being pednatic and am TRYING TO ****ING HELP YOU
When you refer to anything, you are wrong. Take everyones advice and you wont have any problems. A peek is a peek. If I peek a torn bit of paper or I peek and imp or I peek down the nose using a blindfold or I peek using a shiner or I peek using a billion other methods IT IS STILL A PEEK Read my orignal post and DO WHAT I SAID M |
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