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Review King Eternal Order 14446 Posts |
Anyone read Steve Brook's announcement on this download from Nate? For $20 ( Café member price ) I feel it's more than worth it. Nate's known as a card and coin monster, but he's also a gifted mentalist.
KRANZO Magic I just started reading the manuscript, but "Back in Black" is worth far more than the price of the download. Talk about a killer, impromptu, piece of mentalism. I'm reading it and thinking "anyone can do this". With your back turned, even on the other side of the room, you divine which borrowed objects they have put in their pockets ( or anywhere actually ). What a great effect when asked to "show us something". No awkward moment because you don't; have your NW or peek wallet on you. The effect Back In Black: "Kranzo’s work on the now classic Three Object Test where three borrowed objects are placed into three different pockets, or held by three different people, and you can then turn around and describe which object is in what pocket or “Who’s Got What”. Kranzo uses no gimmicks and it can be done anywhere. An impromptu effect this strong that you can keep in your head at all times is priceless. The manuscript has much more. From the site: "In this new volume Kranzo will share with you… * Close Up Mentalism * Stand Up Mentalism * TWO Comedy Mentalism GAGS * A Psychological Subtlety For The Hoy Book Test * A Psychological Subtlety For Annemann’s The Mystery of The Blackboard Glimpse * An incredible Pipe Dream Three Wads This is a fun and quick psychological effect that is based on the old Mental Choice dealer effect. Remember the effect where you were supplied with an envelope containing a few cards and a pen? It was a three-way multiple out that always played very strong. In fact The Amazing Kreskin performed it on Television to great effect! Kranzo has simplified it and given it a modern feel and a strong hook. MONEY and SEX!!! You’ll learn a family friendly version and an ADULT version. TWO Comedy Mentalism Gags A new framing for the classic “NO” Gag. Kranzo presents this on stage for a great laugh. You don’t perform the classic bit and you don’t reveal the word NO….but its really funny. We can’t tip anything more! : ) Kranzo will also share with you a hilarious way to revel a letter when performing a book test, center tear, peak etc. Back in Black Kranzo’s work on the now classic Three Object Test where three borrowed objects are placed into three different pockets, or held by three different people, and you can then turn around and describe which object is in what pocket or “Who’s Got What”. Kranzo uses no gimmicks and it can be done anywhere. An impromptu effect this strong that you can keep in your head at all times is priceless. A Psychological Subtlety For The Hoy Book Test A real worker for anyone wanting to add some ZIP to their Hoy Book Test routine. This is an extremely strong psychological subtlety for the David Hoy Book Test that you will immediately use and adapt!!! A Psychological Subtlety For Annemann’s The Mystery of The Blackboard Glimpse
"Of all words of tongue and pen,
the saddest are, "It might have been" ..........John Greenleaf Whittier |
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parmenion Inner circle Switzerland/Zürich 3988 Posts |
Hmm.. Nathan is a great magician and thinker but when it's about the field of mentalism his idea are rather weak.
I bought some of his mental effect and was each time rather dissapointed. Just my thought anyway.
“I love talking about nothing. It is the only thing I know anything about.”
<BR>Oscar Wilde experimentaliste <br> <BR>Artist pickpocket Professional <BR> <BR>Looking for the best book test in French? send me a PM! |
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Nathan Kranzo V.I.P. 2955 Posts |
How do you really feel? : )
Let me know which effects you think are weak. Maybe I can address the issues? I have not released too many Mental effects thus far. Mental Frisbee, Diction book test, Drink, and Facebook Mental Hook. There are a few other mentalism effects I've published in lecture notes but those are my main contributions thus far. All of the effects I mentioned have worked well for me for years, get great kudos from my colleagues, are used by working pros and are best sellers. All of this I can provide and prove....and I'm sure my satisfied customers and fans will do that before I would even have to. : ) If its a matter of personal taste....I understand and I can't change that. But that's just one man's opinion. Unfortunately you don't have many that agree with you. Thank goodness! But if you have any hard facts or examples of "weak" effects please address them with me. I always address any concerns a paying customer has as long as they are genuine. Rather than just making a general statement which will come off as being a jab at me with no real value added to the conversation....give us some substance. A point.... Now that I think about it that post you made was kinda weak. : ) Ok I have to go do important stuff. Happy Easter Y'all! All the best, Kranzo P.S. Don't forget there is only one week to get this special offer!!! http://kranzomagic.myshopify.com/collect......volume-2
check out MINDZILLA VOL. 2!!! Brand New Effects. Instant Downloads. Watch Demo Videos. Click below!!!
KranzoMagic.com |
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parmenion Inner circle Switzerland/Zürich 3988 Posts |
Hi Nathan,
I don't want to argue with you, as you say it's matter of taste. I got mental frisbee, the frisbee are nice and diction ( nothing new but I understand if you're beginner there's lot to learn ) I'm sorry if I'm not fan but unfortunately I'm not a teenager anymore Anyway the word fan is a little bit presumptuous ! You mindzilla 2 sounds good but as I was dissapointed before with you "hipe" product now I'm becoming very carefull with you routine. Perhaps you came with nice idea, I'll wait for some review of name I know on the Café.
“I love talking about nothing. It is the only thing I know anything about.”
<BR>Oscar Wilde experimentaliste <br> <BR>Artist pickpocket Professional <BR> <BR>Looking for the best book test in French? send me a PM! |
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Paul S Wingham Inner circle 1378 Posts |
In Fairness I would say the "hype" is about nathan rather than by him.... Which I guess speaks for itself. I'm a big fan of almost everthing released by kranzo, simply because you know it's been used and it works, whether it's basic or not......I'm definately not a teenager anymore.
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Review King Eternal Order 14446 Posts |
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On 2010-04-04 09:20, parmenion wrote: Which effect of his is weak? Folks should know what to avoid. What effect of Nate's did you perform and it didn't go over? That hasn't been my experience with Nate's effects, so I'd like to know. Chris
"Of all words of tongue and pen,
the saddest are, "It might have been" ..........John Greenleaf Whittier |
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Pete Legend Inner circle Ireland 1401 Posts |
Hey Chris(Review King)
I dunno you seem to review a lot of products and each and every review is glowing which is fair enough...each to their own(maybe you don't like to post negative comments) but I have to ask do you pay for all the products that you review? Sometimes it's hard to post critique on a product which has been given to you. Maybe you do pay for everything though if that's the case you may have an addiction to buying magic Reviews should be balanced and fair,unless a person has paid for the item I'll take review with a pinch of salt.Once again maybe you do buy all your stuff. I don't have any of Nathan's stuff so cant comment on his idea's though I read reviews here on "latest and Greatest" section of the Café and his like moses though way cooler and then read review on exact product on mentalist section and it's exactly opposite in opinion. Just do a search for mental frisbee. Reviews on Café are a funny thing and I and I'm sure lots of others have bought things which were complete crap because of amazing unbiased reviews posted here.. Though like parmenion mindzilla sounds good though think I'll hold firm for now OK now I must do important stuff Long weekend here...time for the pub!! Pete |
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Mindpro Eternal Order 10585 Posts |
Many purchasers of Mental Frisbee were quite disappointed. It seemed to get regularly poor reviews. I myself didn't necessarily share these sentiments, but I did have to rework it completely using the supplied materials and only the basics of the provided ideas and presentation. I once wrote Nathan about getting only some additional frisbees or a resource for them and never received a response. I also had hoped there would be some updated information and workings after it's release but this never seemed to happen.
I would be willing to try more of his mentalism releases as hopefully the previous may just have been an isolated situation. I must say this new release does sound interesting and has me curious. |
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Review King Eternal Order 14446 Posts |
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On 2010-04-04 14:47, Pete Legend wrote: Ive gone through my reviews and anytime something was given to me, at the start of the review I clearly state "in full disclosure I was given this " or something similar so folks can draw their own conclusions. I think it's fine to pass on a review where someone said they were given a product. You'll eventually find out if the product is worth getting. I reviewed Tin Opener on march 30th: http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......um=109&4 I said "I PM'd Mark several times and he said he'd send me one to look at. I wanted to fully disclose that as I want to know that information when I see a glowing review. Did you read that review before you posted today? I also say if I get an idea, a move, something I can use, it was a great product for me. Others buy a dvd with 12 effects and they want 10 of them to be classics or they feel cheated. It's their money, they're entitled to decide where value is for them. We all have our own gauge for what something is worth to us. You said "each and every review is glowing". Really? You read them and can make a public claim like that? You read this, all the way through and can still make that claim? http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......orum=111 Don't like or trust what I review? Don't read what I write. See my post and you know to go right past without reading it. You alluded that I "have an addiction to buying magic". I trade for the majority of what I get, but I know people ( hobbyists and working pro's ) that get almost every single thing released, just to look at it/play with it. They sell and trade, here on the Café, on Ebay and in their towns, with circles of friends. You have a problem with that. Someone engrossed in their hobby? Why? Why does that matter to you? I could see casting a negative outlook on someone if they said most of their money goes to gambling/drugs, etc. But to slam them because they spend money on their hobby? Buying magic isn't that expensive, so you must really loath people that collect guns, cars, art, etc. I'm curious, what product that you have and don't agree with the review I made? You mentioned Mental Frisbee. Your read a review from me on that? I never got that, so I'm baffled you mentioned it. Of course, I'm also baffled by your other false claims, so maybe that's what you do. Do you have a review on anything? Have you taken the time to do that? I'd like to read one of your reviews, so please point me to one. The only anything you got right in your post was the start of it when you said "I dunno ". Because, you clearly do not Chris Kavanagh
"Of all words of tongue and pen,
the saddest are, "It might have been" ..........John Greenleaf Whittier |
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Pete Legend Inner circle Ireland 1401 Posts |
Ha ha settle down I put a wink smiley after "my addiction" comment,meant in jest..sure how would I know if you had an addiction..My CC suggests I myself have a penchant for magic,boots and socks.
Lighten up and of course I will continue to read what you write, I be a complete fool not to do so! You are the review king and I am Pete Lengend together we would be an unstoppable force I think my irish slaggin may have upset you in some way,for that I guess I should say sorry or better yet come to the pub and I'll buy you a pint. I should state though that I do take your reviews with a large quanity of salt,actually not just your's but a lot of peoples.Im just tad tired of over the top reviews and 90% of the time the stuff just does to live up to the hype( no reflection on Nathan's work..havent bought any) So now I don't loath you as a person,Im not in a round about way throwing stones at you for buying magic(that be just silly) your possibly a nice fella and could be excellent at ping ball or arm wrestling..You posted a semi review I asked a question..you answered so I'm thankful.I still have my opinion and you have yours..in the meantime Im going to have a chocolate egg,collect my girlfriend from the pub and moan over the fact that I had to stay home. Be well sir! now back on topic! Anyone for a bit of Mindzilla?? P.S. I love you to critique my show!! |
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T.House Loyal user 279 Posts |
Could we get back to the original topic, please? I would very much appreciate a complete review of Mindzilla volume 2. Thank you.
Bruce |
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Kamal Loyal user 253 Posts |
It looks promising, but I'm another one of those who paid a hefty sum for Mental Frisbee as was very disappointed. The actual frisbee's are great, but the rest was less than expected - especially for the money.
I'd be interested in seeing more reviews for this before purchasing. |
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Nathan Kranzo V.I.P. 2955 Posts |
Ahhhh Mental Frisbee. You either love it or hate it....kinda like me! : )
The only reason anyone was not happy in MF was they probably thought it was going to be the holy grail. I too have hoped for the holy grail and was disappointed when I didn't receive it......only to find out it was just some "thread" or a marked deck etc. Ok that's a little harsh but I KNOW there is a little of that in all of us. Especially when we purchase things just for fun and to find out the secret. This is going to make a lot of guys mad. If you aren't a performer then Mental Frisbee was probably a bad purchase. I openly state this in the advertisement!!!! I had a guy on ebay even copy it and sold his knoc off using balls instead of frisbees and call it "Mento Spheres" or something like that. What a hack! This guy even tried to explain to me why it was ok..... With MF you are buying a script and routine....not any new electronic device or astonishing new method. A worker. But this is a dead horse and there is another thread on that already. Plus....its sold out! I know a lot of people that love it and STILL USE IT. that's all that matters to me. If you were a fan and you purchased this effect only to then hate me.....thats a personal issue. LOL! Once again I will say this loud and clear. If you don't like something that is a PROVEN strong and entertaining routine for ANOTHER PERFOMER that is amatter of taste and I can't MAKE you like it. But if you say it wasn't worth the price....well once again what is "worth"? Like I said if you were just looking for the method it probably didn't blow you away....but you probably should have researched it before you purchased it. Here is just ONE of the glowing comments I've received from performers all over the world. As you can imagine words of praise from a WORKING PRO who actually PAID FOR THE EFFECT sing to me a little louder than a self proclaimed expert sitting in his lazy boy complaining about how "there is nothing new here". Well sorry guys I don't create for you. Sorry if this is offensive. I will create what I want when I want. Buy it or not..... Now....what the hell were you guys arguing about? Go ahead and get back to work I guess. : ) P.S. Only a couple of days left to save $5 on Mindzilla Vol. 2!!! http://kranzomagic.myshopify.com/collect......volume-2
check out MINDZILLA VOL. 2!!! Brand New Effects. Instant Downloads. Watch Demo Videos. Click below!!!
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Nathan Kranzo V.I.P. 2955 Posts |
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On 2010-04-04 17:26, Mindpro wrote: I'm usually very good about responding to emails an pms. I'm not sure why you would have not received a response reagrding the extra frisbees. Unless I just responded that they weren't available. I have received several supplements and additional ideas from great mentalists all over the world. But when you release an effect and people gripe, moan, complain and act like babies it kinda makes you not wanna do it anymore.......so a supplement to Mental Frisbee was never put out. If you ever need anything just email nathankranzo@gmail.com On a side note..... Unfortunately this griping and treating creators and artists badly is one of the things that stopped John Cornelius, Steve Dusheck and other great minds from releasing their creations. I have not been ripped off as much as them.....and I'm not saying I'm as smart as those guys. Obviously I'm not because I still release effects and put up with people stealing them and complaining about them. : ) All the best, Kranzo
check out MINDZILLA VOL. 2!!! Brand New Effects. Instant Downloads. Watch Demo Videos. Click below!!!
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Nathan Kranzo V.I.P. 2955 Posts |
Oops.....forgot to add this quote regarding Mental Frisbee even though this is way off topic and I should care....
“Compliments…very entertaining effect. Best wishes from Italy.†- TONY BINARELLI World renowned entertainer and mentalis
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Nathan Kranzo V.I.P. 2955 Posts |
By the way you guys need to thank Chris ReviewKing.
The Magic Café can be a place full of pointless bickering that will suck the life out of you. It can also be a great resource thanks to people who post honest reviews and info like Chris. Then he has to take crap from people......jeez. You should all thank him. Later, Kranzo
check out MINDZILLA VOL. 2!!! Brand New Effects. Instant Downloads. Watch Demo Videos. Click below!!!
KranzoMagic.com |
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Nathan Kranzo V.I.P. 2955 Posts |
Anyone want to give an un-biased review? Hit me up for a review copy.
All the best, Kranzo
check out MINDZILLA VOL. 2!!! Brand New Effects. Instant Downloads. Watch Demo Videos. Click below!!!
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BMWGuy Inner circle Texas 2562 Posts |
UNBIASED REVIEW
OK guys, I emailed Nathan, and he sent me a copy for review. This is unbiased and totally honest based on 2 read throughs. The ebook is 8 pages long, and Nate first shares an effect called THREE WADS....... This is a fun and quick psychological effect that is based on the old Mental Choice dealer effect. Remember the effect where you were supplied with an envelope containing a few cards and a pen? It was a three-way multiple out that always played very strong. I would use it as a kid, and it always played strong.....this one is impromptu, and Nate also gives you a presentation you can do involving sex. 7.5/10 this seems like fun to do, and you can use your mind to create your own games, I didn't like the one Nate gives involving money, but I did like the one involving the digits. The next 2 effects, well they arent really effects but gags, and I personally didn't like them. I really enjoyed Nates take on the Psychological Subtelty for the Hoy Book Test! Very nice indeed 8/10 BAck in Black........now this one has to be my favorite, and I have already come up with an alternative presentation for this. Basically 3 objects......are put into different pockets with you back turned and you proceed to turn around and tell the spec where each object is hidden and what the object is. ...........this plays just like Dead Zone Pro, but now you don't need to spend $1500 on it, its only $20.00 Nate gives a good presentation and subtlety to obtain the necessary dirty work to carry out the effect, which is great IMHO. 10/10 All in all, $20.00 is not a lot for 3 effects that you could use, especially Three Wads, and Back in Black. This is very fairly priced, and if you use at least one thing in here, it is worth the money. I will use Back in Black, as it is totally impromptu. Thanks Nate. Love Back in Black Alex
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parmenion Inner circle Switzerland/Zürich 3988 Posts |
Nathan we didn't think mental frisbee was the holy graal...
But for the price we were expecting something more. Now it looks you want only good comments, life is not like this, sorry. I agree with pete, Chris, ( review king) you review are more advertising ( what's new) than real reviews. Anyway I like read them because I know what's new, so thanks for that.
“I love talking about nothing. It is the only thing I know anything about.”
<BR>Oscar Wilde experimentaliste <br> <BR>Artist pickpocket Professional <BR> <BR>Looking for the best book test in French? send me a PM! |
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Kamal Loyal user 253 Posts |
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On 2010-04-04 21:19, Nathan Kranzo wrote: I am a full-time performer, and I didn't like it. I regularly perform for adult audiences of 400-1000, and just last week performed 4 solo stage shows on board the Dawn Princess. So please don't insult my intelligence and tell me that it's only for performers. |
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