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Bundleofstix
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Fair enough.
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On 2010-07-22 15:38, davidleiper wrote:
Alan, email sent. A brief reply would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers

Dave.


Alan, could you please update me? I'm not looking for refund- just an expected delivery date.

email is davidleiper@doctors.org.uk

cheers
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Alan,
Hope the case with P.o is sorted out. Cant wait. Have you re- re -re- re- shipped the item? Impatient souls!!
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I've PM'd Alan twice about the original claim "limited to 100" and this new
v 2.0. No response from him.
"Of all words of tongue and pen,
the saddest are, "It might have been"

..........John Greenleaf Whittier
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What a joke... so much for a limited release.

I sold mine as though pretty cool it's not something I will be using, but I would not have appreciated buying something with the understanding that it was a limited release only to find out that's a load of ********.

I can see how this is a good opportunity for Alan but at the same time he really should honour the original agreement, or at the very least it should have been a timed exclusive so that the original purchasers have it for a year or so before it gets a general release... of course some would prob still be waiting on there package by the time the exclusivity was up Smile

Oh well doesn't affect me anymore, but surely not everyone is happy about this.

To end on a good note... this Malteser KFC Krushem I'm enjoying is yummy.
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Not happy about the limited edition being offered as a version 2.
A magician's word should mean something these days.

I'm selling a high tech device that will make you instantly vanish.
It looks like a special effect when you see the demo you will swear it is trick photography.
So only 25 units will be sold and those that buy it will have an exclusive for life.

Alan I have shipped you one to review so please let me know if I can improve it?
Please send me version 2 of Shmoke so I can see how my exclusive was improved?
All my best in magic;)
my V.V will be out shortly Virtual Vanisher:)


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Hey Alan what's the expected date for the refund man? There's gotta be some point where you just collect the total and transfer the money form your bank even if you don't have "all" the refund request emailed in, right? I know the bank charges you for transfers and that sucks but its not too fair to keep those already requested refunds on hold for a long time, you know? Thanks again for sorting this out.
God Bless
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Put a transfare in today as I believe I have all the folks now. Itll take three days to process it through. the day does ill do all the refunds.
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So has my product shipped as well?
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Who knows Lou. Alan has said that ALL of the replacements were sent out July 12th. But I have some doubts as to whether or not that's true, due to the fact that ON July 12th he said he had just placed the order for replacement supplies, and then on July 15th he said he was "just waiting on more parts and replacement parts from singapore." So obviously something here doesn't add up. When Alan was asked about this obvious inconsistency, he avoided giving an answer and said he'd give out refunds. Someone else also asked him for an answer to this inconsistency in his statements, and he said the refund was his answer. Well it's great that he's giving out a refund (although that should be a given considering we never recieved what we paid for, and I seriously doubt I'll ever recieve it), but this big inconsistency in Alan's statements leads me to believe that we were lied to and that Alan's an untrustworthy person. Maybe this is a misunderstanding, but Alan's refusal to explain isn't helping the situation. If I feel someone is untrustworthy I will no longer continue to purchase any of their products.

I can definately see why people are irritated to discover that this product is going to be rereleased so soon, especially when they were lead to believe it was going to be a limited release. Granted I never recieved my order so I should be happy that I'll have the opportunity to purchase this from a dealer who can actually get this delivered to me. But as I said I doubt I'll be purchasing this or any other of Mr. Rorrison's products, based on principal. Luckily, Alan wasn't the first to invent this product(a p** that allows you to breath a puff of smoke) and it is available to purchase on the internet (although it was not intended as a magic gimmick, so it doesn't come with a DVD showing you how to use it for magic purposes). Originally this product was made for people who were trying to quit smoking, and they were made to look like cigarretes. Then the company that makes these decided to also make them in the form of a p** for people who wanted something more discreet. It costs a little more than what Alan was charging, but at least you know you'll recieve it. Who knows, maybe I will eventually recieve the replacement from Alan, which would be great because this really does seem like a great product and it will have lots of applications for magic.

Alan, I apologise if it seems like I'm being overly harsh, but you really handled this situation poorly.
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Ya. Nothing yet either
Getting upset now that he said he wouldn't give me refund and have been waiting just as long as others with payment but no product
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Elimagic, what do you mean he said he wouldn't give you a refund? He said he would be giving a refund to everyone who hasn't recieved their shipment yet.
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Hi Alan,

Are you going to send me a new shmoke out?
Mine went dead and doesn't work at all anymore. I've written you many many times
and emailed you and you have never responded back to me.

Thank you,
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Shipping delays and natural disasters happen and I'm very forgiving of that. But saying there will be only 100 made and then not honoring that is wrong. I guess that's why my PM's asking for an explanation have gone unanswered.

Don't people that do this know all future releases will have this hanging over them. Is Alan planning to never have another release, so he doesn't care?
"Of all words of tongue and pen,
the saddest are, "It might have been"

..........John Greenleaf Whittier
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Folks keep in mind I'm trying to juggle a life I surprisingly have away form the internet too. Stevo, its sounds like you just need a battery pack. Pm me your address and ill send you my spare bpack.

Review king. I cant give you info ont he improvements on v.2.0 at this time. But I had the opportunity to improve on the original idea so I took it. Any thing that will make the effect better is a must for me and the progression of the effect. Only 100 where ever sent of the v1.0( well to 100 people I mean) The 2.0 units are a progression to the original
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On 2010-07-27 08:39, Alan Rorrison wrote:

Review king. I cant give you info ont he improvements on v.2.0 at this time. But I had the opportunity to improve on the original idea so I took it. Any thing that will make the effect better is a must for me and the progression of the effect. Only 100 where ever sent of the v1.0( well to 100 people I mean) The 2.0 units are a progression to the original


Then you should have created something to "improve on the original idea" and offer an upgrade ONLY to the 100 people that supported you.

You broke your word.
"Of all words of tongue and pen,
the saddest are, "It might have been"

..........John Greenleaf Whittier
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A car company brings out a car only at one thousand units, then they improve a few things and release a new version. It happens all the time in creative fields

Only 100 customers got v1.0 and I wont be releasing the 1. unit again, My word on that is fine.

Some may call it selling out. some will call it natural progession or evolution, But as stated I have the means to make an upgrade to the design which I did not have before.

On the upgrade pack idea. This is something I would need to discuss with the company but its something I will put forward
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On 2010-07-27 08:46, Alan Rorrison wrote:
A car company brings out a car only at one thousand units, then they improve a few things and release a new version. It happens all the time in creative fields



Oh, do they state that only a certain # of models will be made and the line closed out? If they did that and broke their word, their customers would be OK with that and support them in the future? Not bloody likely.
"Of all words of tongue and pen,
the saddest are, "It might have been"

..........John Greenleaf Whittier
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It happens all the time and in the end the v2.0 is an improvement/evolution to the limited 1.0. If I didn't take the opportunity no one would get the improvement etc. I have email you upgrade pack idea to the company and ill let you guys know what happens. That is the best I can do just now on the matter, Stevo I look forward to your pm. And the other select few your refunds will go though this friday. Now I cant spend all day moching about online. I need to go deal with real life
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On page ten Alan states I do now qualify fir the refund
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