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But it works.
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Get your money out, Dan Harlan has the "Awakening" out that tops them all, so the hype says here: http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......m=109&60

A totally new presentation on the "Professors Nitemare" that tops them all, fools even magicians in the "know".
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Pete,

Yes, it works. But I thought it was fascinating how this move has evolved in so many ways --- and for reasons that are, to me at least, so non-obvious. Do you happen to know which of the three descriptions I referenced is closest to Slywester's original work?

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I have the James Lewis video and did not realize there was a rope effect on it, I will have to dig it out and take a look at it. He also published a book, would it be in there? I have my library boxed up, so I was just wondering.
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On 2010-04-22 23:12, Scott F. Guinn wrote:
Actually, it's "Sylwester", and the above reference is correct. I believe one can still find The Hierophant in a series of perfect bond books. This one is in the 2nd book, which contains numbers 3 and 4.


Finally came across these, and was able to pick up the move from Roger's description as well.

Thanks for this reference.

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On 2010-06-15 05:22, wmhegbli wrote:
Get your money out, Dan Harlan has the "Awakening" out that tops them all, so the hype says here: http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......m=109&60

A totally new presentation on the "Professors Nitemare" that tops them all, fools even magicians in the "know".

The Harlan version is nice and discussed in another thread (reviews). But, not unique.
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Do you have any idea what they are talking about? I know a lot of rope moves, but all of this vague referencing has no meaning to me. How about a link to a demo, or is just seeing this fabulous move a secret too? Perhaps I can take a look at the Dan Harlan video if someone can give me a hint as to just what I should be looking for. If you feel better discussing this fantastic manuver in secret sessions I am willing to go there too, but there is nothing said in this whole thread that I understand.
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Ian,

Roger came up with a very nice move in which to stretch the ropes in the beginning stages of the Prof. Nightmare. You have to the ropes held in the fingers of each hand, and as they come together in a prayer position, the dirty work is done.

When I saw Roger do it, I was floored. I had no clue when it happened. Pages 122-123 in the Hierophant, Vol 3/4

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That sure sounds like the old Chinese noodle factory PN routine to me, which I have seen several magicians do.
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Harlan had a link to his lecture piece. You can find it in the review section. Good, bad, garbage".
Jeremy Pei also does the Roger's move.
The dirty work is done long before you stretch.

I do something like it on my DVD, but the "prayer thing" is descriptively correct.
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The move that I am talking about is, you show three different lengths of rope, put your hands together as if you were praying, and as you stretch your hands apartand the three ropes become equal lengths. Is that what this thread is all about?
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I have yet to find the actual clip of sylwester.
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Al--
I can understand your confusion since my routine "The Awakening" does not use the Roger Sylwester move at all. It is a nice move, though! While we're on the subject... Jon Allen has some great moves in his routine "Freddy's Dead." There's another obscure source for all of you! Hmwaah-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!
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On 2010-08-23 15:54, DanHarlan wrote:
Al--
I can understand your confusion since my routine "The Awakening" does not use the Roger Sylwester move at all. It is a nice move, though! While we're on the subject... Jon Allen has some great moves in his routine "Freddy's Dead." There's another obscure source for all of you! Hmwaah-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!
--Dan Harlan

Wmhegbli dropped your name, Dan, we all know that you do not use the Sylwester move in your effect. Only Al is getting a little slow in his old age.
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Dan
Thank you for your help.

Ian
Thank you for the compliment.
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On 2010-08-23 18:46, Al Angello wrote:
Dan
Thank you for your help.

Ian
Thank you for the compliment.

Hands in the prayer position.
I am pretty sure the move is the one you talk about.
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Dan
We have so many vague references here another one is not really needed, but thanks.

Is there anyone out there who can come up with a video of this fantastic move?
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If its the "prayer hands" thing, then Jeremy Pei has it on one of his routines.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouWDoFm18uw
At 31 seconds in on the ad.

So, Al, you have my Dances effect, one of the moves I do accomplishes the same mechanics (where I allow the spectator to stretch the ropes). I doubt that Sylwester got to that position exactly in the same manner, but once there, you are left with ends in your right hand and three lengths dangling. You could, at that point, grasp the other end of the dangling ropes, and stretch them while the ropes are between several fingers. (ala prayer handed move).
My only interest in contributing to this thread is that I am not impressed by many other rope effects, and this was very close to my original move. The mechanics are a bit different from mine but to a spectator, the effect is the same.
Basically, you do not pick up all ends into one hand.
On my DVD demo,
http://stagetricks.com/shop/viewitem.php......ductid=2
the move is at 54 seconds up to 105 seconds.
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Thank you
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