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pasteboard wizard
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Hello, fellow sleight-of-hand artists, I have about a month to put together a multiplying billard ball act. I want it to be jazzy and simple at the same time. I was thinking of including a dancing poolstick effect. I need help and sources of really tight routines, like books or videos that will help me.
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Hey there, Wizard...Well, I think you should get McBride's World Class Manipulation series --I hear it rocks for that sort of thing. Hope I helped... Smile
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McBride's "world class manipulation" series isn't worth watching. His stuff is absolutely useless and not to be used on stage.

No doubt, the "Card manipulation" videos are really great but the ones we are talking about s...

Instead, get yourself video recordings of great performers (incidentally, the name Richard Ross comes up) to see what can be done. Then, start playing with your billard balls and you'll soon come up with good moves. Jeff should stay with cards.

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I agree with Christof. McBride shows stuff that is not even practical. Go into the old books such as "Side Arm Snookery," Burling Hull's expert billiard ball manipulations, which is highly recommended. There are a few out-of-date, impractical things in there as well, but 90% of it is worth its weight in gold. I have lots of other suggestions that if you are interested you can contact me via e-mail themagichands@hotmail.com
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I also would recomend the Shimada video. He is a true Master of billiard ball manipulation.
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McBride...useless? Smile

Them's fightin' words where I come from. So would you guys mind qualifying your remarks before I kick the snot outta you?

Smile Seriously, I'm very surprised to hear you guys say that. What's up with that?
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My favorite source at the moment is Kaufman's "Balls! Lessons in Sidearm Snookery" that London referred to--but I doubt you could master that stuff in a month. And I'm not sure how easy it would be to find a copy.

I also think that the McBride tapes have value. For learning basic moves and flourishes, I think they're great. I do think that serious manipulators would need to go to Kaufman, Buckingham, etc., but I use a lot of stuff from Jeff's tapes.
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You may want to check out Alan Wakeling's routine based on the earlier Roy Benson routine. It takes a different approach than the standard 1 ball multiplying to 4 approach.

See the book "The Magic of Alan Wakeling" by Jim Steinmeyer.

The book is an amazing value in itself.
Very creatively stimulating.

(y'know Steinmeyer ought to start paying me......that's about the third plug for one of his books that I've posted in the last day or so! But seriously, his stuff is really good. Some of my favorite magic books, in fact........as if you couldn't tell)
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Is "The Magic of Alan Wakeling" readily available, or is it out of print? I'm interested in the Wakeling routine myself. I know it's the routine favored by Earl Nelson, so it must be good. Another excellent book on billiard ball work is "Spherical Sorcery & Recollections of a Pro" by Maurice Rooklyn. It's long out of print, but you can still find copies via an ABE search. An often overlooked source, is the Lewis Ganson "Routined Manipulation" series. Billiard balls are covered in volume two. Besides being readily available, the material presented by Ganson is very practical, and therefore very useful (unlike some of the more esoteric stuff, found in the Buckley book, for instance). The original poster said he had "about a month to put together a billiard ball act". I was just wondering how it was going? Are you close?
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Ok, before I get in trouble ... Smile

McBride's videos on balls are good for beginners since they also cover basic techniques and flourishes, shell handling, etc...
All of this, you can of course find elsewhere.

The stuff on the videos that goes beyond the basics of ball manipulation is what I don't like. It's not angleproof, fairly unnatural and way too fancy to my taste.

Only my 1/50 $.

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If I'm not mistaken, you can purchase "The Magic of Alan Wakeling" directly from Jim Steinmeyer:

http://www.jimsteinmeyer.com/

It's an excellent book.

I wasn't mistaken!

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Pasteboard, It’s been almost three weeks since your post looking for a billiard ball routine reference. Did you find one that you could use? Are you still looking? Time is drawing near to the deadline you set (month).

If you do not have a billiard ball routine and still want one, then I have a reference for a fairly straightforward routine that can be mastered in a few hours of practice. It is hound on Dan Harlan’s “Pack Small Play Big Video 1 the All Purpose Show”(www.magicsmith.com ). It is called “Herman” on the tape. Dan performs it to patter and gives his ball a personality. However, the routine does not require the story and can be done patter-less to music. I think that it will serve your needs until you have the time to put into developing your own more routine.

Another good reference in billiard ball manipulation is Tim Wright’s “Multiplying Balls” video.
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Hi,

I would like to recommend three good books:

Routined Manipulations by Ganson
Complete Illustrated Close Up Magic
Tarbell Vol 2

Yours faithfully

:devilish: Dan Kirsch Smile
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I'm surprised that no one mentioned Buckley's "Principles and Deceptions."
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I am hoping I may be able to offer you some good resources on your quest for finding references for billard ball magic.

I tend to collect anything I can find on manipulation and like to keep these as references in my magic library. Hope these help.

Videos:
- Shimada Lecture Series (2 tapes) - He goes over a lot of billard ball moves and does some very nice stuff using billard balls and silks. He also shows a technique for using a double shell.

- McBride Manipulation series for balls, coins and thimbles - Although some of the advanced moves may not be 100% angle proof, I consider Jeff's videos to be great teaching tools. His basic moves are excellent reference material.

- Patrick Page London Lecture - Page shows some very nice billard ball moves and a simple, yet effective 4 ball routine.

Books:
- Jeffrey Buckingham's It's Easier Then You Think - This is an old book but is wonderful reading. He covers not only billard ball moves and an entire routine, but also goes into ball holders, hold outs and how to properly steal body loads.

I have more information to share, but I will start with these and hope they are of help to you.
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I would cast my votes for Shimada Sensei's videos/lecture on billiard balls. He handles them, in my opinion, better than anyone alive. Study his natural way of movement, every step or stance is for a reason. Beautiful.
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Vic,

I completely agree with your assessment on the Shimada tapes. Some people do not often realize just how good Shimada is at the performance of billard ball magic.

His moves are not only fluid, but natural and his misdirection works cause it makes logical sense in his presentations. You can learn quite a bit from really studying these tapes in depth.

I hope anyone studying billard balls or manipulative magic gets these tapes for their library.
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This post is past the original parameter of "one month to get ready," but a great book which is still available, at least in sections, is Lewis Ganson's "Complete Routined Manipulation." In Part Two (again, still available by itself), there is a clearly illustrated routine with the billiard balls. I recommend it over some of the videos currently on the market.

Even if you don't intend to perform a manipulative act, I believe there is value in studying the routining, and the logic behind the movements and steals in these routines. That's another reason why the cups and balls are so important. The late Charles Earle Miller said that he learned a great deal from dancers, because of the grace and purpose they use in every motion.
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Hey Pasteboard,

How did it go? Did you do your billiard ball act, and what did you do?

FYI I've just started working on Lewis Gansons 'Rainbow Ball Routine' - 4 different coloured balls, no gimmicks, no fekes, no droppers - it's really visual and neat.I've been using a set of practice golf balls from a local department store - very light, easy to palm and strong colours.
It's also well worth looking at Jerry Mentzers 'Master Silk and Ball Routine'. I've been doing it for years, with a one ball routine and some colour changes on the end. I think this Ganson routine will follow on nicely from that.

My favourite source of ball moves is in Walter Gibsons 'Complete Illustrated Book of Close-Up Magic', which is pretty old, but great!
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Where would one get the Shimada tapes?

Thanks!
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