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Bryan Smith
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Does anyone print their own cards on blank face Bicycles? Does it work? What kind of printer? Want to make a few gaffs I have in mind but have never tried printing on blanks.
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I've tried it without much success! The only thing I can suggest is that you give it a try and see what happens, you may have better luck than me! the finish on Bicycle cards makes them difficult to print on. You probably need to print out your design on a standard A4 sheet of paper, then tape a card by the leading edge over the design. Then feed the paper through the printer again this time printing on the card.

The only real success I've had with printing my own cards is to print each side on reasonably heavy printer paper and then glue them back to back. I've made a few one-off cards this way, but it's a tedious method and the "feel" of the cards is obviously a bit different. Also, some printer papers (particularly the glossy ones) don't slide the way bikes do, so making packet tricks becomes a bit out of the question!
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Wiz Kid Qua-Fiki and I ran into that same problem when he was writing "Go Fish Card Tricks." We had to learn to make cards that handled as well as regular Bicycle playing cards, but print on them with his unique "Go Fish" designs. We experimented with Chris Wasshuber's (of Lybrary.com) methods and they worked well, but what we finally ended up doing was printing on blank face and blank both sides bicycle brand card stock. Qua-Fiki's method works for printing up to four cards at a time (one side only) on either ink-jet or laser printers. We got the blank card stock from Mad Hatter Magic, and use the card stock from Chris Wasshuber for making special extra-jumbo (A4) cards.
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There was a DVD that I got several years ago called "Versatile Monte and Beyond - The complete course on how to print custom playing cards".
It is copyrighted by Mark Allen and the only contact info I have is http://www.magiclair.com.
I was able to make custom cards using my inkjet printer.
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Bryan, you might be interested in what I have developed so far. All the details can be had here http://www.lybrary.com/make-your-playing-cards-a-11.html
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Chris,

That is an outstanding resource. Thank you so much for your time to develop and then document this!!!

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Wow! Your work is amazing, Chris. You've save me and many other people a lot of work and inevitable mistakes along the way. Thanks!
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Is screen printing an option? I think that is the best looking method for personally produced gaffs.
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On 2010-05-28 19:08, gaddy wrote:
Is screen printing an option? I think that is the best looking method for personally produced gaffs.


My 1st set of jumbo Sidewalk Shuffle cards were made using a silk screen process on regular jumbo playing cards. The ink set up higher on the card, and was thick, which made the image rise up from the card. The ink never really dries as when against vinyl it would transfer the ink to the vinyl.

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On 2010-05-18 17:31, Chris wrote:
Bryan, you might be interested in what I have developed so far. All the details can be had here http://www.lybrary.com/make-your-playing-cards-a-11.html


You are really a determined researcher, that is a great article, and it shows your commitment to your final goal. Great information and wonderful process.
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If this does not seem like something that is worth the cost and effort, I know Haines House of Cards, 2514 Leslie Avenue, Cincinnati, OH 45212-4206, (513) 531-6548, has been printing special cards for over 50 years. They no longer have a web site, so you would have to call them for your needs. If you have a special card designed, they can print it. They require the same as a printing company as to quantities, at least 500 cards.

Also Fun Inc. prints playing cards, it would not hurt to contact them in Chicago, IL as well for price information. They are on the web.
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In Britian you can get a transparent adhesive film that you can print in a printer, (You get diffrent types of film one for a laser one for ink jet). You can print this and then stick it onto blank playing card stock. It works quite well.
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I have tried it on my printer and it was just ok, but then I found a silk screener in my town, she can make and print anything, and it looks amazing, I found the cost to be fair also, I say fair because there was some art work she drew up for me too.
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On 2010-06-20 08:31, dave wrote:
I have tried it on my printer and it was just ok, but then I found a silk screener in my town, she can make and print anything, and it looks amazing, I found the cost to be fair also, I say fair because there was some art work she drew up for me too.


Are you experiencing the ink transfer that wmhegbli mentioned?
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I have had really nice results with using a Cannon straight through feed printer. I take Blank Faced cards and lightly smooth them with scotch brite (takes off the sheen). Than I make a template on a single sheet of paper put the double stick tape on it to hold the card in place and run it through. Let it dry and than put a light coat of krylon semi gloss.

Seems to do pretty well for me
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On 2010-05-18 17:31, Chris wrote:
Bryan, you might be interested in what I have developed so far. All the details can be had here http://www.lybrary.com/make-your-playing-cards-a-11.html


Chris:

Can you explain the difference for a beginner between the bleed KardKutter and the non-bleed one and why you would chose one over another?

I'm actually ALSO an amateur game designer and I'm really interested in this both for magic and for my games...

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Oh and one more question:

If I were to laminate cards first and then run them through the KardKutter could it handle that okay? No damage to the tool?

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NM Chris, I found the explanation to the bleed question by carefully reading your site.

Still wondering abt lamination though. Ill look for a question spot on your site.
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Have you tried http://plaincards.com/ While I don't think you can duplicate bicycle backs, you can do a lot of creative things with this system. I use it for creating customized 2 and 3 card montes for corporate client presentations.
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I also use plaincards.com.... and what you can do is you make them and print them as PDFs, take them to a professional printer... and it is great.

But since we are on the topic... I wanted to ask two other things as I am playing with the above...

1) To make a st*i*per deck.... do any of you use a sanding machine to edge the cards? I got the idea because with the Plaincards, to smooth the edges, you get a piece of sanding paper...but if you sanded a bit extra... just wondering if anyone has tried this before I wreck a deck!


2) To make the edges "gilded" like gold/silver etc. like old style cards... anyone ever try stacking the decks, and just lighly painting the sides? I worry they will stick together... but there must be a way....???
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On 2010-07-27 07:10, Dr Spektor wrote:

2) To make the edges "gilded" like gold/silver etc. like old style cards... anyone ever try stacking the decks, and just lighly painting the sides? I worry they will stick together... but there must be a way....???


Presumably it used to be done with real gold leaf... quick search of the internet (here in the UK) gives

http://www.goldleafsupplies.co.uk/acatal......se_.html

I understand that gold leaf is simply applied to the surface and pressed (burnished) on... there's probably more detail onthe website, but I haven't looked.
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I just tried it using real bike decks with blank faces, first I tried Testors clear decal paper, all you do is print the image on the decal just like regular paper, soak it for 5 seconds, transfer it to the card, worked great but it wore off very fast, then I sprayed it with clear lacquer, it works well enough, but still not long lasting, then I tried to use mineral spirits to remove the finish from the card and ran it straight thru my copier, no trans paper, let it dry for a few seconds and sprayed it with lacquer, it works great , only time will tell if it will hold.
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