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MagicSanta
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As we all know some technologies come out that are not exactly as touted. I mean, a CD isn't any clearer than an album if you have a good stereo and I never really noticed much difference between a DVD and a video tape. I mean that the difference isn't great. Sure you have those fools who spend thousands on stereo equipment who swear one wire with a red cover is superior to one with a green covering who think they are different but we normal people know otherwise. Well, I saw a blue ray disk play for the first time the other day and the image was so much clearer than anything I've ever seen it shocked me. I wouldn't have bet on it but that blue ray stuff is legit....bless 'em.
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Yeah, bluRay can show you details you could not see at the movie theater.
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Any tech system is only as good as its weakest link. You didn't mention the tv it was being viewed on.
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My TV with a Blu Ray on it is clear like looking out a window. It is scary.
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Hi def TV, flat screen, 1080, all that crap. The equipment is fine, which might explain why the picture is so good.
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My nearly blind sister-in-law started watching TV again when they got Blu-Ray and a hi def TV. She says she can even read some of the credits.

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I have a lot of songs on my ipod that I originally had in albums form, and I can hear instraments on my ipod that I never heard on the album. It could be because the songs were remastered I don't know, but I hear instruments on the old songs that just wern't there years ago.
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When I think back to when I was young, we played records on players with ceramic needles. I can't believe I could enjoy or even hear music played on such equipment.

The first DVDs and CDs weren't much of a step up because I believe the digital process did not preserve all of the information.

The HI-Def process does contain more video bits and is a real step up.

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On 2010-05-31 09:30, Al Angello wrote:
I have a lot of songs on my ipod that I originally had in albums form, and I can hear instraments on my ipod that I never heard on the album. It could be because the songs were remastered I don't know, but I hear instruments on the old songs that just wern't there years ago.


When I was younger there used to be a series of ads for some hi-fi gear (speakers or possibly a turntable) that used to have copy saying things like "On track 5 of Exile on Main Street, you can hear one of Keith Richard's strings break...or can you?". They were pretty good ads. Print ads - wasn't able to track them down on google. Anyone else remember them? I've got an idea they appeared in Omni.
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Al is right about the remastered stuff. On Bob Dylans CDs you can hear instruments that you couldn't hear on the original version or on the cd before remastering. Everyone needs to run out and get new Dylan CDs to see what I mean.

I should say that remastering and cleaning up the sound also takes away a lot of the emotion of the song, the rawness if you will.
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On 2010-05-31 17:18, MagicSanta wrote:

I should say that remastering and cleaning up the sound also takes away a lot of the emotion of the song, the rawness if you will.


Sobriety does the same thing, I'm afraid.

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I don't know where to post this, so I will start here. I am wondering if Blue Ray is replacing Dvds? All the major Dealers are giving away DVD's like crazy, especially HP and LL. I am thinking it is time to dump them myself, as blue ray is taking over. Just like those old enough remember, they gave away VHS's when DVD's made the scene.

Any inside info on this?

ACE
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I can understand and see the difference between 720 dpi and 1080 dpi, but the difference between 60 MHz and 120 MHz refresh rates eludes me. Can the human eye even detect that much of a difference?
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Interestingly enough....

I have a Sony Bravia 720P projector and a straight through digital display system.

My Blue-Ray player however is my PS3.

It does such a FANTASTIC job of up-sampling DVDs that it takes a really exceptional Blue Ray for me to notice much difference.

(Which is great because I have over a thousand DVDs I think, and with you folks running to blue-ray its become *dirt* cheap to pick up other used ones Smile )

Now CD over album I disagree with you... to me there is a CLEAR improvement in "presence" on CD.

Which just geos to show how variable this all is by both equipment and perceiver.
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On 2010-09-10 14:00, Josh Chaikin wrote:
I can understand and see the difference between 720 dpi and 1080 dpi, but the difference between 60 MHz and 120 MHz refresh rates eludes me. Can the human eye even detect that much of a difference?


Yes.

This was proved some time ago. Although "flicker perception" rate is 30 cycles per second, we DO process the information that comes in at a higher rate then flicker rate. (In CG we refer to "temporal aliasing", the faster the frame rate the lwoer the aliasing.) Doug Trumbull's ShowScan (the first 120fps system, a film system) is so good that it was used as an illusion in the "Present" part of the Luxor's old "The Obelisk" trilogy of rides/shows. You are told what you are watching is live actors... then strange things start to happen on stage. In reality, its all showscan film.
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I've seen ratings for Blue Ray players and PS3 was number one.
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