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Benji, how does that play with men?
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Benji, how does that play with men?



With women, I say I'm going to seduce them. With men, I ask if they know about seduction techniques and I'm going to show them so they can use it.

In close up situations I start out by asking if they know Casanova. Naturally they say yes and then I ask if they know about seduction techniques, etc etc
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I tell them whatever they wanna hear.
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On 2010-06-01 00:37, The One wrote:
I tell them whatever they wanna hear.


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A good source on what to say and why are Chuck Hickok's 2 books Mentalism Incorporated.

Rick Maue nailed it, I am a performer/entertainer.

I personally never say say the words psychic or mindreader in my show. I bill myself as a speaker and entertainer and then I do a classic mentalism show. I talk a lot about psychology, influence, memory, and menemonics.

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On 2010-05-31 09:32, Dick Christian wrote:
Why is it necessary to explain them at all? Is a magician obliged to "explain his abilities" or is the fact that he is a "magician" all the explanation that is required? Why should a different standard be applied to a mentalist or mindreader?"

I agree with your perspective Dick, but also must point out one simple (but major) difference. Most people view and understand a magician's performance as illusion, trickery and deception, they accept and are comfortable with this and then view the performance from the perspective of "I will be tricked or deceived" and "let's see if I can figure out how he/she did it." They don't have to explain it because it is already understood and accepted.

I believe it's different for a mentalist. The public and audiences do not approach it as they are being tricked or deceived. They perceive it as something claiming to be real. This is also often the impression or perspective mentalists want their audience to believe. With that being said, then the question that immediately comes to them is "so how is he doing that?" They think (or are led to believe, it's real, not trickery, deception or illusion) immediately what does he have that I don't that allows him to do this if in fact this is truly real? It is from this perspective and perception that the questions arise. It is for this reason that a mentalist must have (in my opinion) an answer, justification or reason for his abilities.

Mentalism is great in the fact that it has this unique perspective built into it. The audience wants to believe it's real, even though their minds and logic may say something different. This is the basis for the strength of mentalism. But as any true working performer knows, this is much more questionable and mysterious to audiences and the public and therefore will without a doubt raise these thoughts and questions.

It is for this reason I believe a mentalist should have a clear and concise explanation for their abilities. It justifies their curiosities and keeps the unique perspectives of mentalism alive.

Then at this point to me it becomes one of two perspectives - A. psychic abilities, or B. other non-psychic abilities (subconscious, body language, influence, intuition, psychology, etc.) Then of course whichever of these you chose should be fine tuned to your exact character, interests and persona.

This is why I feel many mentalists try to perform routines that (well they be be great routines or effects) are not consistent with their perspectives. There are many more responsibilities and related elements if you chose the psychic route, but you can also get away with some things that shouldn't be possible with the non-psychic approach. The non-psychic approach also seems to have the "I can do it and so can you if you knew how and practiced as I have" making it viewed as something that is learned and perfected. It's something that is possible for everyone if they take the time to learn and train themselves.

Just my two cents. I agree that a mentalist shouldn't have to address this as many other types of performers don't, but mentalism isn't like all other types of entertainment. People do not have a preconceived understanding of what's to expect and what's going on.
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People do not have a preconceived understanding of what's to expect and what's going on.


neiher do we....
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It's lame, but I always say "I'm a magician." or "I'm a mentalist" and leave it at that. They could ask me a dozen times but that's always what I say.
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I say I'm an regular guy with unusual abilities. I'm thinking of putting that on my new business card.
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On 2010-05-31 09:32, Dick Christian wrote:
Why is it necessary to explain them at all? Is a magician obliged to "explain his abilities" or is the fact that he is a "magician" all the explanation that is required? Why should a different standard be applied to a mentalist or mindreader?"


The non-psychic approach also seems to have the "I can do it and so can you if you knew how and practiced as I have" making it viewed as something that is learned and perfected. It's something that is possible for everyone if they take the time to learn and train themselves.

Just my two cents. I agree that a mentalist shouldn't have to address this as many other types of performers don't, but mentalism isn't like all other types of entertainment. People do not have a preconceived understanding of what's to expect and what's going on.


Mindpro,

People may or may not have a "preconceived understanding of what's to expect and what's going on" but IMO that's a moot point. As I indicated in my original post (as well as other thread in which this topic has been discussed) I don't feel obliged to OFFER an explanation, preferring instead to simply do what I do and let members of the audience decide for themselves how they wish to interpret it.

Having said that, and since I neither make any claims nor issue any disclaimers, if I am to offer any "explanation" of my ability I prefer to do so by implication rather than any specific statement. In that regard, when and if I am pressed for an explanation (something which, BTW, I find rarely happens), I have found that falling back on the Dunninger's "For those who believe . . ." or "Everything I do could be done by a child of 12 . . . with 30 years of practice" (both of which are still used by Kreskin). Alternatively I use -- with his permission -- the late Ned Rutledge's "I use my intuition, understanding of psychology and my own five senses to create the illusion of a sixth." In rare instances when I feel it appropriate to be particularly candid, I have even simply said "I cheat" although I prefer the aforementioned pseudo-explanations used by Dunninger, Kreskin and Rutledge.
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Why using disclaimers ?

“For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don't believe, no proof is possible.”
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On 2010-06-01 00:37, The One wrote:
I tell them whatever they wanna hear.


Same here. However, in my case I use their assumptions.
So I usually wait for someone to come up with their "theory".

Whenever someone said that what I did in front of them was just a trick, I immediately replied yes.
And they will deny their own theory instantly. Smile
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On 2010-06-08 18:14, jekyllandhyde wrote:
I say I'm an regular guy with unusual abilities. I'm thinking of putting that on my new business card.


That's kinda how I sum it up.
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Don't explain anything aqt all, - you don't need to.

When people ask me, I say that I simply can't explain it. "These things just happen"
Close the case there and leave them wondering!

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