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TKE Veteran user FL 346 Posts |
Benji, how does that play with men?
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Oyama Inner circle Portland, OR. 1054 Posts |
I just do what I do. Leave them wondering what the heck just happened.
"it's better to live one day as a lion, than a thousand years as a lamb."
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Benji Bruce Special user 930 Posts |
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On 2010-05-31 22:34, TKE wrote: With women, I say I'm going to seduce them. With men, I ask if they know about seduction techniques and I'm going to show them so they can use it. In close up situations I start out by asking if they know Casanova. Naturally they say yes and then I ask if they know about seduction techniques, etc etc |
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The One Veteran user 325 Posts |
I tell them whatever they wanna hear.
I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end...
I came here... To tell you how this is going to begin. |
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Dick Christian Inner circle Northern Virginia (Metro DC) 2619 Posts |
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On 2010-06-01 00:37, The One wrote: I predict that you have a great future in politics.
Dick Christian
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tboehnlein Inner circle ohio 1787 Posts |
"please exceuse me I have a sick mind"
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Eshla Inner circle 1239 Posts |
"I ate Sylar's brain"
I come from the future to culture you poor sods with fire.
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insight Inner circle 3095 Posts |
Oyama, silence is golden!
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chmara Inner circle Tucson, AZ 1911 Posts |
I'm special and the dead speak to me -- because I have evolved without technology interfering.
Gregg (C. H. Mara) Chmara
Commercial Operations, LLC Tucson, AZ C. H. Mara Illusion & Psychic Entertainments |
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mental4u New user 80 Posts |
A good source on what to say and why are Chuck Hickok's 2 books Mentalism Incorporated.
Rick Maue nailed it, I am a performer/entertainer. I personally never say say the words psychic or mindreader in my show. I bill myself as a speaker and entertainer and then I do a classic mentalism show. I talk a lot about psychology, influence, memory, and menemonics. Gregg Lancaster Mental Masterpieces College Station, Texas |
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Mindpro Eternal Order 10587 Posts |
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On 2010-05-31 09:32, Dick Christian wrote: I agree with your perspective Dick, but also must point out one simple (but major) difference. Most people view and understand a magician's performance as illusion, trickery and deception, they accept and are comfortable with this and then view the performance from the perspective of "I will be tricked or deceived" and "let's see if I can figure out how he/she did it." They don't have to explain it because it is already understood and accepted. I believe it's different for a mentalist. The public and audiences do not approach it as they are being tricked or deceived. They perceive it as something claiming to be real. This is also often the impression or perspective mentalists want their audience to believe. With that being said, then the question that immediately comes to them is "so how is he doing that?" They think (or are led to believe, it's real, not trickery, deception or illusion) immediately what does he have that I don't that allows him to do this if in fact this is truly real? It is from this perspective and perception that the questions arise. It is for this reason that a mentalist must have (in my opinion) an answer, justification or reason for his abilities. Mentalism is great in the fact that it has this unique perspective built into it. The audience wants to believe it's real, even though their minds and logic may say something different. This is the basis for the strength of mentalism. But as any true working performer knows, this is much more questionable and mysterious to audiences and the public and therefore will without a doubt raise these thoughts and questions. It is for this reason I believe a mentalist should have a clear and concise explanation for their abilities. It justifies their curiosities and keeps the unique perspectives of mentalism alive. Then at this point to me it becomes one of two perspectives - A. psychic abilities, or B. other non-psychic abilities (subconscious, body language, influence, intuition, psychology, etc.) Then of course whichever of these you chose should be fine tuned to your exact character, interests and persona. This is why I feel many mentalists try to perform routines that (well they be be great routines or effects) are not consistent with their perspectives. There are many more responsibilities and related elements if you chose the psychic route, but you can also get away with some things that shouldn't be possible with the non-psychic approach. The non-psychic approach also seems to have the "I can do it and so can you if you knew how and practiced as I have" making it viewed as something that is learned and perfected. It's something that is possible for everyone if they take the time to learn and train themselves. Just my two cents. I agree that a mentalist shouldn't have to address this as many other types of performers don't, but mentalism isn't like all other types of entertainment. People do not have a preconceived understanding of what's to expect and what's going on. |
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lejon Special user 721 Posts |
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On 2010-06-08 16:15, Mindpro wrote: neiher do we.... |
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Dr Spektor Eternal Order Carcanis 10781 Posts |
1) Radioactive Spider
2) I was actually born in Asgard 3) Studied with the Ancient One in Tibet for 20 years 4) Fell and bumped my head and came up with the idea for the Flux Capacitor 5) The Guardians of the Universe game me a ring 6) I'm a mutant 7) I was kidnapped from the parallel universe and boy is Walternate angry 8) Cosmic or Gamma rays 9) Exposure to the MC 10) All of the above
"They are lean and athirst!!!!"
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magicFreak2 Inner circle 1220 Posts |
It's lame, but I always say "I'm a magician." or "I'm a mentalist" and leave it at that. They could ask me a dozen times but that's always what I say.
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jekyllandhyde Regular user 200 Posts |
I say I'm an regular guy with unusual abilities. I'm thinking of putting that on my new business card.
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Dick Christian Inner circle Northern Virginia (Metro DC) 2619 Posts |
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On 2010-06-08 16:15, Mindpro wrote: Mindpro, People may or may not have a "preconceived understanding of what's to expect and what's going on" but IMO that's a moot point. As I indicated in my original post (as well as other thread in which this topic has been discussed) I don't feel obliged to OFFER an explanation, preferring instead to simply do what I do and let members of the audience decide for themselves how they wish to interpret it. Having said that, and since I neither make any claims nor issue any disclaimers, if I am to offer any "explanation" of my ability I prefer to do so by implication rather than any specific statement. In that regard, when and if I am pressed for an explanation (something which, BTW, I find rarely happens), I have found that falling back on the Dunninger's "For those who believe . . ." or "Everything I do could be done by a child of 12 . . . with 30 years of practice" (both of which are still used by Kreskin). Alternatively I use -- with his permission -- the late Ned Rutledge's "I use my intuition, understanding of psychology and my own five senses to create the illusion of a sixth." In rare instances when I feel it appropriate to be particularly candid, I have even simply said "I cheat" although I prefer the aforementioned pseudo-explanations used by Dunninger, Kreskin and Rutledge.
Dick Christian
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bofx Special user France 509 Posts |
Why using disclaimers ?
“For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don't believe, no proof is possible.”
My mentalism books: Mental Sweets 1 - Mental Sweets 2
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powerwords New user Indonesia 73 Posts |
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On 2010-06-01 00:37, The One wrote: Same here. However, in my case I use their assumptions. So I usually wait for someone to come up with their "theory". Whenever someone said that what I did in front of them was just a trick, I immediately replied yes. And they will deny their own theory instantly.
BE GOOD, if you can't then BE CAREFUL, if it's hard then BE BAD!!!
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Logan Five Inner circle Northern California 1434 Posts |
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On 2010-06-08 18:14, jekyllandhyde wrote: That's kinda how I sum it up.
Self concept is destiny..
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Sven Rygh Inner circle Oslo, Norway. 1945 Posts |
Don't explain anything aqt all, - you don't need to.
When people ask me, I say that I simply can't explain it. "These things just happen" Close the case there and leave them wondering! Sven
WWW.SVENRYGH.NO
"Keep it as simple as possible, - but no simpler" http://www.svenrygh.no/sven-rygh/presse/nrk-forst-og-sist/ http://www.svenrygh.no/video.html |
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