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Have any of you guys used this in the real world, and how has it played out? Strong reactions?

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I am not familiar with "Predict-Tac-Toe" but from the title I assume it is an effect that culminates with the fact that the performer has successfully predicted the outcome of a game of Tic-Tac-Toe. There is, however, a Tic-Tac-Toe force that accomplishes the same thing in the late Martin Gardner's book "Mathematics, Magic and Mystery" and which is described by Johnny Thompson in the "Polish Epic" routine in "Polished Polish Prestidigitation" (1981). IMO it plays very well when presented properly either alone or as part of Thompson'sthe larger "Polish Epic" routine.
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The underlying method can also be found in Mark Wilson's Magic Book. There is a specific presentation that I have worked on which goes over very well. So yes, it can be quite a routine.
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Predict-tac-toe (I believe) is Osterlind's version of this effect. I cannot now remember exactly what they were, but his version added some touches to the Tic-Tac-Toe prediction genre (that I remember where nice).

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Osterlind, if I remember rightly, used a photo of kids playing tic tac toe in the snow, as a revelation.

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There is also a marketed effect - Tic Tac Toe Scratch, using a similar method to Predicta:

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On 2010-06-07 12:59, steveline wrote:
Osterlind, if I remember rightly, used a photo of kids playing tic tac toe in the snow, as a revelation.

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There's a version by Bev Bergeron called Child's Play in Vol.1, No.11 of Sizygy.
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I have used Osterlinds original version (no photo, but with a chess like diagram) of predict-tac-toe several times and it always totally blows people away.
It's not part of my standard show, but if I ever want to add a mental effect to a magic show, or do a short mentalism presentation this one is always in there.
The great thing about it is that the presentation is so fun and engaging that people completely pass by the on tiny little thing that they might have caught to figure it out.
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Mmm...odd...I was thinking about something alike..

I may have to develop my own method...
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This has played very well for me. I love the humor of Richard's "chess moves," but I've also come up with a more streamlined (but less impromptu) way to do what needs to be done. I might use either, depending on the situation. As an overall concept, the effect is one of my favorite little-known gems.
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I've been using Osterlind's take on this since he first came out with Challenge Magic on VHS. I was almost sadden when he showed it off in his later mentalism series. Even more so when he had a similar ending to something I was doing.

It's a great effect and has a lot of impact.

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On 2010-06-07 09:54, Pauldela wrote: Have any of you guys used this in the real world, and how has it played out? Strong reactions?

We had a workshop on this at IBM Ring 46 this evening. It was followed by a Canadian documentary (a small part of it, actually) about Martin Gardner, who died on May 22, 2010 in Norman, OK. The effect is only as strong as your presentation, but played right, it is definitely impressive. Like others, however, I prefer Osterlind’s nuances. They really add to the impact, as well as the misdirection.
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I too have combined elements of Richard's presentation and Bev Bergeron's method to create two versions. One for walkabout and one for parlour/cabaret which involves 4 specatators.

My version has evolved to work with a rectangular layout as opposed to a "square" prediction so ideal for a 3 x 5 envelope format with no suspicious turning of the grid as a convincer.

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Osterlind is also using this in closing a two-person blindfold act (13 steps DVD). I tried that with a friend and it played well too.
I have also used the method in Child's Play (Syzygy) which is very easy to remember.

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In the 13 Steps DVD I like it but the outcome of the game seems weak to me. The Spec doesn't win, the entertainer doesn't win, and the "cats" conclusion doesn't sit well With me. Shouldn't the performer win based on his abilities? Or I could also see a way to justify the spec to win, but a draw...with urging???
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This is on the 13 steps DVD? I have only seen it on the MM.
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On 2010-06-07 11:37, Steven Keyl wrote:
The underlying method can also be found in Mark Wilson's Magic Book. There is a specific presentation that I have worked on which goes over very well. So yes, it can be quite a routine.


This instantly jumped into my mind. Smile
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On 2010-06-07 09:54, Pauldela wrote:
Have any of you guys used this in the real world, and how has it played out? Strong reactions?

Paul


very strong, and do-able in many different circumstances. almost 100% impromptu.
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