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I am spending time with family in Ohio, and as usual it opens eyes... I don't care if you want to eat Bob Evans for 3 meals or hit up White Castle every hour or so, but doing it your kids is not fair. They do not have a choice. I saw a overweight mom in Walmart with her two kids, who were also overweight-cart filled with soda, chips, cookies, microwaveable crap. By feeding her kids like that, she is taking time off their lives, not to mention setting them up for ridicule in school (kids are cruel). I don't want to hear "it's the genes" or "big boned"-if so, put them on a diet. I have also read the excuse, this is how I was raised, or 'My child can have anything he/she wants, it was that like that for me bur I'm proud it is for them'...


I admit, I have never had to struggle with weight, I have always been skinny. So I don't know about extended diets.
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Posted: Jun 12, 2010 7:22am
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Yet another reason I like Michelle. Great thing she has chosen as her focus while Barry is in office.
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This whole country is full of very round children, and 300 lb moms it is sad.
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I know it's everywhere Al, just that I notice he heft and unhealthyness a lot more when I'm in the Midwest.
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It's all over the continent, I'm afraid. I really notices flying in from Europe. North Americans are simply bigger.

It's not at all clear how we, as a society, can or should deal with this.

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Hear that knocking? It's opportunity! No one has mentioned the market potential for a thin or average person in good health to create an educational healthy lifestyle program for the schools, daycares and after-school programs. It could be the next big thing after Anti-Bully. If you're a fitness nut and a gym regular, even better. You become the living example these kids can reach for. Educate the kids to compensate for parental indifference and make a buck or three in the process!
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Make money? What? Save the kids from their parents wrath.
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Skip,

Good idea, tap into the school health upgrade craze. I guess it boils down to doing something about it rather than just complaining about it. The country has also become a bunch of whiners who complain about things but don't take action to change them.
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But what action? Does anybody think that a school show can have any impact whatsoever?
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John
Are you saying that there are fewer obese Europeans?
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So what can I do other than "whine"? Shout from the rooftops? I have no kids, I work with them and do the best I can.
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I agree with Tom, I'm going to my local convience store right now, and beat up some fat kids. LOL

My opinion is that we should all be outraged.

I'm 5' 9" and 200 lbs, I would like to loose 20 lbs. My wife is 4' 11" and 90 lbs. If she lost any weight she would loose her great butt.
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In some cases, processed snacks are cheaper to buy than say, fresh fruit - which is why people on very tight budgets buy these unhealthy snacks - their kids prefer them to fruit and they're cheaper. It's not a good choice, but there's a reason for it...

A big problem is 'modern' portion sizes. No small. Regular, large, or jumbo. Plates the size of a pizza tray. People drinking giant cups of whatever.

I saw an old b&w film a while ago and there was a scene in some type of fair where a guy bought an orange juice for him and his girl - the paper cups seemed so small that they looked like the little paper cups you get in the dentist.
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On 2010-06-12 07:21, kcg5 wrote:
I am spending time with family in Ohio, and as usual it opens eyes... I don't care if you want to eat bob Evans for 3 meals or hit up white castle every hour or so, but doing it your kids is not fair. They do not have a choice. I saw a overweight mom in walmart with her two kids, who were also overweight-cart filled with soda, chips, cookies, microwaveable crap. By feeding her kids like that, she is taking time off their lives, not to mention setting them up for ridicule in school (kids are cruel). I don't want to hear "it's the genes" or "big boned"-if so, put them on a diet. I have also read the excuse, this is how I was rasied, or 'My child can have anything he/she wants, it was that like that for me bur I'm proud it is for them'...


I admit, I have never had to struggle with weight, I have always been skinny. So I don't know about extended diets.
If this has offended anyone I am sorry.


Advertising does this.

How can anyone make an informed decision when all of their information is Big Bright Shiny LIES beamed at them for hours upon hours per day through the primary medium of information (TV) in their lives?

Its all well-and-good to say that people shouldn't be persuaded by television, but in reality, people are HUGELY influenced by all sorts of advertisements all the time. That's why companies spend millions upon MILLIONS of dollars on them.

Also, the generally, inherently bad-for-you ingredients that are used to make processed food-items simply WILL cause people to be unhealthy and obese. There is no longer even any debate over this, and yet, as was pointed out above, these items are also drastically cheaper than the healthy alternative, and are so chocked-full of sugar as to better appeal to the low-income, less developed palate of the modern consumer.

It's almost unfair. These people have no defense against this sort of sophisticated advertising in their relatively sheltered lives. The unhealthy products all around them all the time, and the alternatives seem boring, largely unavailable, and overly expensive.

Does anyone here not understand this?
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John
Are you saying that there are fewer obese Europeans?


Based on my limited experience, absolutely. You see overweight Europeans but I do not recall seeing any extremely obese people who weren't North American tourists.

On my recent trip to Southern California, it appeared that there were more XXL people than I've ever encountered before. I also noted that the restaurant portions (which are huge here) were absolutely gigantic beyond my experience.

Of course, this is all my observation in the last couple of years. I've certainly not looked carefully all over both continents; so take all this with a grain of salt.

John
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Writing without first googling for statistics, but only using my impressions:

There are indeed obese Germans. What strikes me when I go to the States is:

1. something I call "average thickness". You've got your skinny people, your obese people, and then your everyday people seen in public people. The everyday people seem bigger to me in America than in Europe.

2. the number of "MY GOD THAT PERSON IS FAT" people in the States. By "MY GOD THAT PERSON IS FAT" I mean that the first thing you notice about them is not their clothes or weird haircut or anything else OTHER than their size. You see one every now and then where I live. By now and then I mean a couple of times a month, maybe less. In the States you see them every day.

3. as John said, the restaurant portions are unbelievably large in the States. I love it, because I do not have a weight problem and when I go to the States I want to get a good dose of American decadence. But why can't the portions be smaller and the prices cheaper? Does everyone want to literally stuff themselves full every time they eat out? Is that the point of eating out? Sure, I like to pig out a couple of times a year. But not every time I step into a restaurant. And the desserts are always big enough for two people.

In general, I've also noticed that the average thickness increases as you go south here in Germany. But that has nothing to do with anything. I've just noticed it.

One last thought: I do recall reading statistics that seem to reflect (with the exception of Japan) a distinct correlation between obesity and GNP. JFWIW.
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Yea gaddy I think we all get it. Consumer culture and all that. But this isn't about the ten people who read this. It's a FAT problem. Parents are killing their kids, cheaper food or ads be dammed. Don't watch tv. Don't by stuff that makes it hard to by fruit for kids.
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Jamie Oliver's Food Revolution (the version that aired on ABC... where he went into a U.S. city) had insights about health, weight, eating habits, attitudes, etc.

http://abc.go.com/shows/jamie-olivers-food-revolution

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On 2010-06-12 16:16, Donald Dunphy wrote:
Jamie Oliver's Food Revolution (the version that aired on ABC... where he went into a U.S. city) had insights about health, weight, eating habits, attitudes, etc.

http://abc.go.com/shows/jamie-olivers-food-revolution

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I saw an episode of that one, it was a nice show with a good message overall. It didn't do too well in the ratings if I remember correctly, though.

Ah well!
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