The Magic Café
Username:
Password:
[ Lost Password ]
  [ Forgot Username ]
The Magic Cafe Forum Index » » Everything old is new again » » Bonus Genus (0 Likes) Printer Friendly Version

 Go to page [Previous]  1~2
Clay Shevlin
View Profile
Elite user
497 Posts

Profile of Clay Shevlin
Quote:
On 2010-06-23 07:34, funsway wrote:
I agree with most of what Clay offers, except ...

funsway, don’t think we really disagree. I think your concerns are valid.

@ Bill:
Yes, missing pages can be annoying, especially if one is paying money for digitized images. An astonishing number of books have been scanned and made available (either for free or for a fee), and I’d guess that the ones doing the scanning are not being paid much, and perhaps being paid on a piecework basis, i.e., a fraction of a cent for every page they scan. So, they probably go as fast as they can. I’ve seen more than a few page images with a hand, finger, etc.
Jonathan Townsend
View Profile
Eternal Order
Ossining, NY
26944 Posts

Profile of Jonathan Townsend
Clay, would you happen to know the source of the quote attributed to Seneca about luck being where preparation meets opportunity?
...to all the coins I've dropped here
Clay Shevlin
View Profile
Elite user
497 Posts

Profile of Clay Shevlin
^^^ Sorry, Jonathan, can't help you there!
Bill Palmer
View Profile
Eternal Order
Only Jonathan Townsend has more than
24218 Posts

Profile of Bill Palmer
Quote:
Yes, missing pages can be annoying, especially if one is paying money for digitized images. An astonishing number of books have been scanned and made available (either for free or for a fee), and I’d guess that the ones doing the scanning are not being paid much, and perhaps being paid on a piecework basis, i.e., a fraction of a cent for every page they scan. So, they probably go as fast as they can. I’ve seen more than a few page images with a hand, finger, etc.


It's really worse than annoying. It's like buying a book that has had pages torn out of it.

The irony of the situation is that they didn't need to scan the books in question. All they needed to do was to digitize them. They are already available in photographic form, and have been for decades.

However, you have raised a very valid point. I haven't seen what has become available in the past five years or so.

I believe I'll go have a look.
"The Swatter"

Founder of CODBAMMC

My Chickasaw name is "Throws Money at Cups."

www.cupsandballsmuseum.com
magiczzz
View Profile
New user
22 Posts

Profile of magiczzz
I have found a wood carver who specialises in dolls who is willing to create a bonus genius for me - can anyone help with specs?
Clay Shevlin
View Profile
Elite user
497 Posts

Profile of Clay Shevlin
Specs: carved head and body
Spellbinder
View Profile
Inner circle
The Holy City of East Orange, NJ
6438 Posts

Profile of Spellbinder
OK, you annoyed me enough to make Jim Gerrish go digging around in his Wiz Kid Museum boxes and find the one they used to use on their Christmas shows many years ago. Here it is. I hope you are not too disappointed when you see it. Today's audiences will have difficulty accepting it, so that's why we have been suggesting bringing it up to date by making an original from one of today's dolls. Kids in the 1890's treasured dolls that looked like this, but today's kids would use them as hockey pucks.
Image
Professor Spellbinder

Professor Emeritus at the Turkey Buzzard Academy of Magik, Witchcraft and Wizardry

http://www.magicnook.com

Publisher of The Wizards' Journals
Leslie Melville
View Profile
Special user
Blackpool-U.K.
685 Posts

Profile of Leslie Melville
The doll pictured is pretty much like the one that Burtini made in the 1940's and Supreme later copied. My Burtini doll had a black cape.

Were they made in the 1890's? The references that I have seen date them much earlier.

Leslie
Stories....?....That's telling!
magiczzz
View Profile
New user
22 Posts

Profile of magiczzz
Wow....thanks for picture...on the bob read dvds - he shows pictures of very early bonus dolls - any info on how they looked or are made?

d
Leslie Melville
View Profile
Special user
Blackpool-U.K.
685 Posts

Profile of Leslie Melville
The very early ones looked fairly typical of dolls of the period, more elaborate in design but given the requirements of the trick, and without giving away here the precise workings, would have been made in the same way that the 'Wandering Willie' doll pictured above, was made!

Leslie
Stories....?....That's telling!
magiczzz
View Profile
New user
22 Posts

Profile of magiczzz
Is this what you mean:

http://www.martinsmagic.com/?nd=full&key=2704

this is wonderful
Leslie Melville
View Profile
Special user
Blackpool-U.K.
685 Posts

Profile of Leslie Melville
This is vaguely similar to some pictures that I have seen - it looks quite good but doesn't seem to have the appropriate legs!

Leslie
Stories....?....That's telling!
Bill Palmer
View Profile
Eternal Order
Only Jonathan Townsend has more than
24218 Posts

Profile of Bill Palmer
Usually, the body including the legs is made from some kind of flexible or compactable material.

However, if this is small enough, it might work just fine.
"The Swatter"

Founder of CODBAMMC

My Chickasaw name is "Throws Money at Cups."

www.cupsandballsmuseum.com
magiczzz
View Profile
New user
22 Posts

Profile of magiczzz
Is there a video of anyone doing bonus genius - would someone be willing to do a version?
Bill Palmer
View Profile
Eternal Order
Only Jonathan Townsend has more than
24218 Posts

Profile of Bill Palmer
You would have to find someone who actually has one that is in performing condition.
"The Swatter"

Founder of CODBAMMC

My Chickasaw name is "Throws Money at Cups."

www.cupsandballsmuseum.com
Spellbinder
View Profile
Inner circle
The Holy City of East Orange, NJ
6438 Posts

Profile of Spellbinder
I would be surprised to find someone doing this as a stand-alone effect. It's the kind of thing that you would insert in a routine with other effects, the way I did with my Houdini Séance Trunk from The Wizards' Journal #10. The Bonus Genius principle is employed as part of the Houdini Metamorphosis performed with dolls.

I believe that when the Wiz Kids performed with the Bonus Genius in the photo, it was a small part of a Christmas routine in which the doll was found in a stocking and disappeared while being held by a child from the audience, only to turn up on his back after some time had gone by with other Christmas effects intervening.

I can't imagine it being used all by itself.
Professor Spellbinder

Professor Emeritus at the Turkey Buzzard Academy of Magik, Witchcraft and Wizardry

http://www.magicnook.com

Publisher of The Wizards' Journals
magiczzz
View Profile
New user
22 Posts

Profile of magiczzz
Can you elaborate on your Houdini Metamorphosis performed with dolls, please.
Spellbinder
View Profile
Inner circle
The Holy City of East Orange, NJ
6438 Posts

Profile of Spellbinder
You'd have to go to my site (in my signature), click on Wizards' Journal #10, and scroll down to find the explanation and click on the INFO button. Sorry, I have to send you on this route, but since I can't afford to advertise on the Café, this is the way it has to be done.
Professor Spellbinder

Professor Emeritus at the Turkey Buzzard Academy of Magik, Witchcraft and Wizardry

http://www.magicnook.com

Publisher of The Wizards' Journals
daleshrimpton
View Profile
Regular user
the u.k
135 Posts

Profile of daleshrimpton
Old post... Ive seen an original bonus genus. it resembled a peg doll. ( and was probably originaly constructed from the same) Simple wooden body, with a hole drilled at the neck, and the detatchable head, had a thin peg that fit into the hole loosley.
the body,was palmed away, and the head, was vanished via a pocket on the cloak.

It was very common for him to turn up in old french conjuring cabinets.Indeed, this is where I saw him.. sitting there next to an incredible price tag on a stall at the portabello rd.
Quentin
View Profile
Inner circle
1007 Posts

Profile of Quentin
There's a version, Sammy sunshine, sold by Albion Magic
http://www.albionmagiccompany.co.uk/#!pr......sunshine
The Magic Cafe Forum Index » » Everything old is new again » » Bonus Genus (0 Likes)
 Go to page [Previous]  1~2
[ Top of Page ]
All content & postings Copyright © 2001-2019 Steve Brooks. All Rights Reserved.
This page was created in 0.14 seconds requiring 5 database queries.
The views and comments expressed on The Magic Café
are not necessarily those of The Magic Café, Steve Brooks, or Steve Brooks Magic.
> Privacy Statement <

ROTFL Billions and billions served! ROTFL