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Payne Inner circle Seattle 4571 Posts |
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On 2010-06-17 05:36, magiczzz wrote: H&R Books has a copy listed on their site for $12.00
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Payne Inner circle Seattle 4571 Posts |
According to my copy of Magic in Istanbul a Cups and Balls worker was called a Hokkabaz. The bag they wore (close to their right side) is called a Enban or Cilbent.
The Hokkabaz appears to have worked with an assistant who stands behind him with a Tambourine or something called a Zilli Masa. These instruments were played in accompaniment to the performers actions and also provided distraction and misdirection. There is no description of a cup and ball act in the book that I could find. A seach on YouTube of Hokkabaz brought up this movie preview http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueQZSYZ6h80
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fortasse Inner circle 1201 Posts |
The same author - Prof. Dr. Metin - recently wrote an article about the Turkish version of cups and balls.
link: http://www.thy.com/en-NG/corporate/skyli......?mkl=187 |
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fortasse Inner circle 1201 Posts |
The same author - Prof. Dr. Metin - recently wrote an article about the Turkish version of cups and balls.
link: http://www.thy.com/en-NG/corporate/skyli......?mkl=187 |
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magiczzz New user 22 Posts |
This may be a long shot but my friend is an antique dealer and he recently bought a picture of an "arab" water seller in traditional costume - I had to do a double take - he looked like he was doing cups and balls with the cups. I am not saying that this is a source, but perhaps we forget that people used to wander round with cups as a business, so they were already on the street. I have been told Malini used galsses from the bar, so is there a connection in any way?
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funsway Inner circle old things in new ways - new things in old ways 9981 Posts |
A caravanserai was a night encampment for travelers where all were protected. No weapons were allowed and "enemies of the day" sat down together for meals, trading and entertainment. Language never seemed to be a barrier, with gestured story-telling, magic and other performance arts transcending direct communications. Most Caravanserai held only a couple of hundred people, but the great Caravanserai of Gyor (12-13th century) was more like a faire and had more than 10,000 gathered. When European merchants with gunships traveled up the rivers and demanded participation they were discontinued. There are ruins of abandoned Serai all along the ancient Silk Road, and some famous cities grew from this beginnings. The tradition still exists amongs nomadic tribes in the Himalayas where traders recognize no national boundaries.
Magic? It is my belief that whenever you got three people together one could sing, one could juggle and one could do conjury. What is more natural that using a couple of stones and a container of some kind? There are few written records of what occured within, but many stories.
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funsway Inner circle old things in new ways - new things in old ways 9981 Posts |
Just for fun - imagining ancient magic (from Ball, Cup and Me)
All of the Clan now expected Ung to do something new and exciting with his basket and colored pebbles. Daily he experiments with different size and shapes of basket and handling several stones at once. He had not progressed to using more than one basket since he had nothing to set them on. As he sat cress-legged on the ground it was difficult enough to balance one basket on his knee. This night he decided to use a drum as a steadier perch. This time when an elder selected a Stone from the basket Ung secretly took one of the other color to hide in his hand while dumping out the basket on the spread fur. He took the selected Stone and placed it on the drum-head for all to see. Then he slowly covered the White Stone with the overturned basket so that even he could not touch it. He lifted the basket quickly to reveal only a single Black Stone on the drum! He had dropped this Stone in front of the White one while lowering the basket. As he move the basked edge back from the revealed Stone that captivated the attention of everyone there it was easy to sweep the White Stone off the drum and into his lap. He deliberately held the basket off to one side at a queer angle and was not surprised when the Elder grabbed it and checked his hands. Some clamored for him to do it again! It was simple to get the dropped Stone into his right fingers, and …
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