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balducci Loyal user Canada 227 Posts |
Relating to my earlier comment that the right sort of war or catastrophe might kick start an economy, here are a couple of articles I came across this weekend, each sort of prognosticating that maybe, just maybe, something might be in the works.
With the war drums beating, prepare yo......le East. The Drums of War? Pentagon Provokes New Crisis With China. Only time will tell.
Make America Great Again! - Trump in 2020 ... "We're a capitalistic society. I go into business, I don't make it, I go bankrupt. They're not going to bail me out. I've been on welfare and food stamps. Did anyone help me? No." - Craig T. Nelson, actor.
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27297 Posts |
Balducci, any funds for the bullets and armor high volume gov contract portfolio?
...to all the coins I've dropped here
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MagicSanta Inner circle Northern Nevada 5841 Posts |
Yes war tends to be good for the economy (ended the depression) I'm not sure how you are defining a catastrophe. The two links were interesting. The first was just opinion and he used terms which basically caused me to ignore him. The second is a reference to a show the flag action by the Navy. Of course it is sending a messege, and that messege to China is leash N. Korea before someone has to put them down for biting too often. Those Ohio class boats are niiiiiice.
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Cyberqat Inner circle You can tell I work on the net from my 2209 Posts |
My industry has already picked back up. And FWIW I haven't had a day unemployed (knock on wood.) It helps to be a recognized leader in a hot field, but by being willing to work hard, work smart, stay ahead of the curve and move around as needed, I've never experienced more then a 3 month out of work period in a 25 year career.
I realize not everyone is that lucky, but if there is anything anyone in the performing arts should be used to and good at managing, its unemployment. (One of the big reasons I did NOT go that route myself as a career.) As for the numbers, I will simply leave you with my favorite quote: "There are 3 kinds of lies. Lies, **** lies, and statistics." -- Mark Twain Quote:
Goddess help us if there is a major catastrophe with immediate physical consequences in the near future. I'm not sure we'd even be able to respond in any meaningful way, never mind the lethal effect it'd have on our economy... You mean like the total devastation of the gulf fishing and tourist industries?
It is always darkest just before you are eaten by a grue.
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MagicSanta Inner circle Northern Nevada 5841 Posts |
Cyber, I spent close to 25 years with the same company and they left the country and everyone lost their job...and I was the dude in Silicon Valley in my field.
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Cyberqat Inner circle You can tell I work on the net from my 2209 Posts |
That was your mistake... you spent 25 years with ONE company. The idea of the "company man" died in the 80s. Today, everyone is a one-man-shop and that's how you need to approach your career. The only career capital you have is what you build in yourself.
The longest lasting job I've ever had was 9 years, (and I left myself to move my career forward and escape boredeom). It was also the only large company I've ever worked for. I'm in the online game business. Average gig in the game industry is about 2.5 years. But there is ALWAYS another one to be had. Job hunting is a skill and something you get better at with practice, just like magic. You also newed to be constantly upgrading your skill-set. It isn't enough to be on the leading edge, you need to STAY on the leading edge. You do that with side projects outside of work. Btw, if you are an experienced Flash game developer or 2D computer artist (or game producer, actually) in the Boston MA area, we will likely be in another round of hiring soon to staff up new projects. You can find the jobs listings at http://www.bluefang.com/jobs/art
It is always darkest just before you are eaten by a grue.
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MagicSanta Inner circle Northern Nevada 5841 Posts |
My career moved forward and no boredom. My first company was purchased by another after seven years, the rest was with the second company. Went from a $60 mil a year company to around 4.5 billion. My corporate office was out of Norwood Mass.
My problem is I was a highly paid guy, which scares off companies, and I am over qualified for most jobs that open up these days and I'm at the wrong age. You may wake up one morning and find yourself without a job and that the game industry is looking to hire the thousands of game developers who are 25 and you ain't in the running. My old company had a game division as well, SoundMax. |
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Cyberqat Inner circle You can tell I work on the net from my 2209 Posts |
Whelp, just because you bring it up or I wouldn't normally mention it. I'm Chief Technology Officer of Bluefang Games (Rebel Monkey before that) and make $217K a year. I'm also the original inventor of the system that was called "Project Darkstar" by Sun and is now the open source "RedDwarf" project.
I turn away recruiters (politely, you never know when you will need them. Don't bite the hands that feed.) about four times a year. Oh, and I'm 46. But.. I DON'T expect that to last forever. What I'm doing on my own time now is working on advancing my career into the truly entrepreneurial space. You can watch the lead sled dog's butt only so long
It is always darkest just before you are eaten by a grue.
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MagicSanta Inner circle Northern Nevada 5841 Posts |
Proof! CFO's do better! Are you Jeff? I remember Project Darkstar, I use to go to the gaming conferences and convention (god knows why). Good thing you are entrepreneurial cuz you be on the way out! Gaming is an interesting industry and it is relatively new so it is a good field. I was on the logistics side and came up with the distribution system used by a lot of the high tech firms. I had my own consulting thing for awhile but I'm not entrepreneurial, I like big companies. Oh, my wife is from New Bedford, so we have a Mass connection!
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Cyberqat Inner circle You can tell I work on the net from my 2209 Posts |
Yup, nice to re-make the acquaintance.
And yes, CFOs DO do better. I could be cyncical and say the further you get from "real work" the more money you make A CTO still does some engineering here and there And I still believe the most important people are the ones who actually MAKE the product. RD is doing quite well as an independent project. My entrepreneurial attempt actually has something to do with it. Crap happens to everybody and I'm certainly not immune, but I think growing up with freelance writers for parents who were ALWAYS having to try to get the next gig probably prepared me better then a lot of people for this world we find ourselves in. We are all effectively freelancers these days. I left Sun about a year before the buy out, which was very sad and something I'm glad I missed. I missed the crazy excitement of the small company/start-up world.
It is always darkest just before you are eaten by a grue.
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MagicSanta Inner circle Northern Nevada 5841 Posts |
Sun was an interesting company, still is. I'm not a fan of a lot of their practices. Well good to have you around.
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gaddy Inner circle Agent of Chaos 3526 Posts |
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On 2010-07-18 20:36, Cyberqat wrote: No, because the consequences of sort of catastrophe is felt over a long period of time, much like a bad harvest or a freak july frost that kills crops. Plenty of time for the "powers that be" to shift economic focus onto another arena of the overall landscape. There will be hideous losses and after-effects from Gulf Oil Spill of 2010 that will linger for the next decade +, but those will mostly be felt over the long haul. As bad as the Gulf Oil Spill is, it's still a very slow killer... I'm talking about something like another "Hurricane Katrina-type" event, a large earthquake, or (more hypothetical) a solar flare that shuts down the majority of the nationwide power grid for months at a stretch, or another World Trade Center bombing -something with immediate, devastating effects over a large segment of the geographical and economic landscape...
*due to the editorial policies here, words on this site attributed to me cannot necessarily be held to be my own.*
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gaddy Inner circle Agent of Chaos 3526 Posts |
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On 2010-07-18 21:15, Cyberqat wrote: Gee, why don't you give santa a job?
*due to the editorial policies here, words on this site attributed to me cannot necessarily be held to be my own.*
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MagicSanta Inner circle Northern Nevada 5841 Posts |
Gaddy, you lil' Wiccaroo!
Yeah, give me a job, I love New England.... You don't want a catastrophy because they are so tragic for the people involved. The last great boom was thanks to Y2K which only morons and IT managers believed in it seems. Companies replaced entire computer systems and desk tops in anticipation of that non event (man, I tormented Y2K consultants before that one, thieves, now they are working the drive through). I remember driving past FMC in Santa Clara and their front lawn was covered with old computers they tossed out due to fear waiting for recycling. What we need is another high tech panic, say using 2012, which will increase the builds of computers and thus components and raw material and test equipment etc etc. To be honest with you only the test equipment is out of the US any longer but maybe it will help....the Chinese! Ha ha! Bless their hearts.... |
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts |
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On 2010-07-18 14:08, MagicSanta wrote: Why? Enough of the "jobs Americans won't do" myth. Let the market find a wage at which Americans WILL do them. The labor cost in the agriculture industry is about 10%, so, for instance, doubling labor costs only increases price by about the same 10%.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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MagicSanta Inner circle Northern Nevada 5841 Posts |
Why? Because they have the expertise that is why. Viva la Raza!
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Cyberqat Inner circle You can tell I work on the net from my 2209 Posts |
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Well I don't "give" anyone a job But I did post a pointer to our recruitment page and the information that we are likely to be in very active expansion very soon. Unfortunately Santa both isn't in the right part of our field and doesn't live in this area.
It is always darkest just before you are eaten by a grue.
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gaddy Inner circle Agent of Chaos 3526 Posts |
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On 2010-07-19 03:09, LobowolfXXX wrote: And why do these darned kids get a free ride? Those toddlers are just lazy, if you ask me! I know the market can have it's way with them as well -if we only give it a chance!
*due to the editorial policies here, words on this site attributed to me cannot necessarily be held to be my own.*
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Cyberqat Inner circle You can tell I work on the net from my 2209 Posts |
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As an ex-Californian whose seen it up close, I think you'd need to do a lot more then double it to get Americans to do it. Then add all the required benefits that illegals don't get paid and your going to majorly increase it beyond that. At sun we figure the burdened cost of an employee(Salary plus benefits, equipment, office space) was about twice their base salary. Granted, Sun was particularly generous in benefits, but 50% is pretty much the minimum "burden" you figure for an employee.
It is always darkest just before you are eaten by a grue.
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts |
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On 2010-07-19 13:17, Cyberqat wrote: I don't disagree with this; however, the additional (beyond salary) costs of employees are internalized in the cost of every other product we purchase, and there's no reason they shouldn't be paid and internalized in agriculture, as well. Moreover, there are societal costs external to the companies that employ illegal workers - emergency medical care, education for minor children, burden on public facilities, etc. As a whole, to this extent, society subsidizes the employers for their hiring practices. While eliminating these costs may not entirely offset an increase in product cost, it would certainly mitigate any increase.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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