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I heard from SM Productionz and they said they are waiting for the units from Berk.
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Emailed HP. just waiting to hear back.
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I made an earlier statement about this thing and not having FDA approval and that without such I’d never take a chance with my eyesight. Of course I’m 63 and have never worn contacts so I wouldn’t even venture to try and do so now at this late date aside from this just not being my thing as it were.

If FDA approval were not needed for contact lenses can you imagine the plethora of crazy and weird contact lenses that would be available and sold in all of those kiosks at shopping malls to all of those freaked out teenagers with multiple body piercings! Some years ago when I was getting my eyes examined I figured I would ask about using contacts. The doctor, and I can’t for the life of me remember the exact reasoning, said that contacts are just not suitable to me and refused to prescribe them for me.

Now, doesn’t that tell you something about the safety of this and how you could possibly take a chance in harming your eyesight? This isn’t like taking a chance with something that uses flash paper and the slight possibility of burning your finger tips. This is your eyes and once you damage them....that’s it!
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Now, doesn’t that tell you something about the safety of this and how you could possibly take a chance in harming your eyesight? This isn’t like taking a chance with something that uses flash paper and the slight possibility of burning your finger tips. This is your eyes and once you damage them....that’s it!


I too am very cautious with my eyes and eyesight. I can't wear contacts period because my blink reflex is so strong.

Having said, that, just because its illegal in the US doesn't necc mean a ***ed things. Our laws are written by politicians for political reasons. Despite every unbiased study showing its much safer then either tobacco or alcohol, cannabis remains illegal in this country (and misclassified as a schedule C substance, which it isn't by the definition of schedule C.)

And it was made illegal to begin with solely because it threatened Hearst's economic interests and he used his newspapers to whip up a political frenzy over it. So while I'd rather have an FDA then not have it, its hardly a body of perfect scientific virtue.
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[quote]On 2010-09-05 18:29, Cyberqat wrote:
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So while I'd rather have an FDA then not have it, its hardly a body of perfect scientific virtue.


I agree the drug thing started because people that were in power didn't like people that were different.
the contact lens issue and the FDA has probably got more to do with professional protectionism than safety, I have witnessed similar things first hand.
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On 2010-09-04 19:49, slyhand wrote:
I heard from SM Productionz and they said they are waiting for the units from Berk.


Surely these are coming from Peter at Alakazam?
Berk is away at the moment until 18th September. Can anyone at Alakazam or Murphy's give us an update (Murphys still have this as pre-order on theri site)?
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Hello this is europe ! So I love penguin magic, but I never believe that they have allready this item. In europe it was exclusivly presnett by inner mind productions (Alakazam). I ordered this iteam as one of the first many weeks ago. And until today there is no one go out from alakazam.
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I would venture to say that if ever possible I order all of my magic from Penguin as their service, shipping and return policy is amazing. However, they need to update their site in regards to this product as it doesn’t make any sense. They have right next to the product: LIMITED QTY ARRIVING IN 14 DAYS. ORDER NOW TO RESERVE YOURS. And then below that: This item is expected to arrive on August 30th, 2010. You may order it now and we will ship it to you when it arrives.

Other than that I just don’t think this effect is going to wash out here in the U.S. due to FDA regulations, and rightfully so. Yes, yes, I fully well realize that the FDA is just one of the many bureaucratic agencies that we have and most of them, if not all, are full of b.s. but I feel they are fully justified in this area.

Other than that, I just don’t get the why people feel this trick is amazing in any way. Granted, when I first watched the demo I thought to myself; “Wow, that’s pretty freaking weird looking.” And then immediately thought; “Not for me, no way am I ever going to place contact lenses in my eyes.” I mean really; do you not honestly think that after the initial shock from the spectator(s) that they will then simply think “contacts”? People are fully aware of them from watching movies and that brain dead idiot Marilyn Manson and that they come in all types of various weird looking configurations. Exactly where is the magic here? Initial shock yes,by all means but, after that they’ll simply walk away thinking “contacts”. Contact lenses are not magical! I don’t know, perhaps I’m missing something here?
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I folded and really the entire issue is moot. At least for the moment it cannot bottom line be sold in the US and shipped within the US. Meanwhile these folks are holding your money. The fact that Hocus Pocus offered a 100.00 credit, a great company says something. The last word is it cannot be shipped from a US company to any address within the US. Perhaps it will change later, but for now, it is not going to happen.
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The technique is pretty cool. If part of your bit is freaking people out I can see why you'ld be attracted to this.

I don't have strong feelings on the issues or potential dangers of contact lenses or how justified the FDA is. I know if *I* were doing something with contact lenses, I'd see my ophthalmologist about. that's me and my comfort levels.

Actually, if we had single payer health-care in this country I could justify the controls easier because the government would be picking up the tab for any damage you did to yourself...
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I don't understand why it can't be sold in US as long as a contact prescription is verified either through faxing/emailing a copy of the prescription, or providing the eye Dr's contact information for verification. The sites that sell the novelty contacts such as vampfangs do this.
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Well talked to HP and was offered the same thing. $100 instore or a refund, went with the in store. Berk and Marc please keep us updated on this cause I am still very intrested.
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Penguin magic says know:

''Our Price: $34.95

This product is temporarily out of stock and unavailable for purchase.''

AND:

''Full Instructional DVD is included. Engineered custom gimmicks are not included in this package because of US laws prohibiting us to sell contact lenses. You will receive instructions on where to buy the custom gimmicks.''
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Here is the latest word from Penguin!

Update on Biokinesis: Not shipping yet, change in package contents and price is coming

When we heard about Biokinesis by Berk Eratay we got extremely excited. This is one of the most dramatic and spooky effects of the year. The magician's eyes literally change color. Imagine being able to do that!! Well now you can Smile Well, unfortunately... not quite yet!

Here's what happened:

Biokinesis is being manufactured Alakazam, a wonderful magic company based in the UK.

In the UK, it's perfectly fine for magic companies to sell or "dispense" contact lenses.

We assumed the laws in the US would be similar, and we started taking pre-orders on Biokinesis without realizing the US Federal Trade Commission has some very special laws regulating the sale of contact lenses.

These laws apply to both corrective and non-corrective contact lenses. All contact lenses sold in the US require a prescription, and only specific medical professionals are allowed to dispense contact lenses.

We've talked with several optometrists and all have stated clearly that wearing contact lenses can be dangerous. They recommend all users of contact lenses have an eye-exam beforehand to make sure their eyes are healthy and can safely tolerate contact lenses. They stress it's also extremely important patients are taught how to properly use and care for their contacts.

We could probably find a legal loophole, hire an optometrist, or something like that. But the law exists because contact lenses can be dangerous if improperly used. Our customers' health and safety is more important to us than anything else. If there's a chance improper use of contact lenses could cause an eye problem, we don't want to sell them. We want our customers to see an eye specialist for a checkup and proper training before using Biokinesis. Even if you're 100% sure you know how to use contact lenses properly, having an eye exam is never a bad idea (especially if you haven't had one in awhile).

We've worked with our supply chain partners and I think we've come up with a great solution. Penguin Magic will sell the Biokinesis DVD (without the contact lenses). The DVD will be much cheaper without the contact lenses (probably around $25-$35).

This will give magicians an opportunity to learn the effect and decide whether or not to buy the contact lenses. If they want to buy the contact lenses they can buy the contact lenses from a licensed dispenser in the US or directly from the manufacturer in the UK. The overall cost will be right around the original $77 we expected (possibly a bit more including shipping).

At this moment we don't have an ETA on when we'll have the Biokinesis DVDs in stock, but we expect another update within 2-3 days.

If you've pre-ordered Biokinesis we will be owing you some money. We also understand some customers may want to change their order since the package and price has changed. That's fine too. We just want to take care of you and do what's best for you. We're happy to give a refund or a store credit. If you do decide you want a store credit we'll increase the amount we owe you by 10% as a small token of our appreciation for sticking with us on this one.

I'm sorry we haven't communicated this sooner. We've only recently discovered the problem, and since that moment we've been working with our partners on this to find the best solution.

Thanks for choosing Penguin Magic. We carry some of the craziest products on the planet. The last time we had a problem like this it involved trying to ship a fancy bullet catch to Australia. Sometimes stuff like this goes with the territory. Thanks for being as outrageous as we are in your taste for products that push the limits and hanging with us.

Sincerely,

Maxwell Murphy
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Can't believe the US law is stricter than the UK's. Over here you can't fart without contravening some health and safety law.
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On 2010-09-08 16:32, Havens wrote:
Can't believe the US law is stricter than the UK's. Over here you can't fart without contravening some health and safety law.


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By sound or smell, they'll get you. A really bad one will also make your eyes change colour.
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Its an effect in itself no more white castle for me but I'm sure you wouldn't have to preorder to do that
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By sound or smell, they'll get you. A really bad one will also make your eyes change colour.


Well, if anything it will make your eyes water! Smile But hey, that's much safer than what improper fitting contacts could possibly do to your eyes.
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