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BanzaiMagic Inner circle 1339 Posts 
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As I now have both CFWM and Phlye and I can say without reservation that both sets have strong points to recommend.
In my opinion, the elegant routine that Mark has created is the strongest point in favor of CFWM. The Phlye routine is much less elegant, but no less magical. And Sammy, I think the final vanish is easier with Phlye than CFWM. The greatest point in favor of Phlye is the usability of the gaffs for a multiplicity of routines rather than just for 3-fly (this is somewhat true for CFWM as well, but "more" true with the Phlye gaffs). The gaffs for Phlye are NOT unique, and in fact fairly common. You can get a lot of info about whether the Phlye routine is for you from the demo CC has done with these coins (here is a demo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byvNZLJBMb8. If you can get them, I strongly recommend custom coins with the Phlye set (I have Walking Liberty coins). Although I didn't buy from him, I think Roy Kuppers still makes these coins and I assume you can contact him for custom information. Regards, Alan |
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27300 Posts
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Me?
Well if one were using a phyle set - one could put a small magnet into the place where carpet take goes for the Roth Lapel coin and use one of six options to finish the across with a vanish from that Stand-up One Coin Routine after a short flury. I give that approach a 5/6. 
Just thinking, Jon
...to all the coins I've dropped here
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Tonylew Regular user Tracy, CA 184 Posts
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If you like to hand he coins out, then U3F is the only way to go. Kohler starts the routine by handing out all three coins (apparently). I bought CFWM in Morgans, used and managed to sell it off at a price that was $5 more than I paid for it. IMO CFWM is an overly complicated variation of U3F. Here is truly a case of gaff overkill! I am surprised that Mark didn't figure out a way to gaff the third coin to make the effect a completely ghastly gaffing gaffe.
I am also amazed to note that when Phlye has been compared to CFWM in the previous postings there has been no mention of the price difference. All those CFWM gaffs make it quite a bit more expensive than Phlye. BTW I have just managed to pick up three sets of Phlye in JFK's at wholesale. THey retail for $200 each. I will keep one for myself and sell off the other two in the Café market place for a hefty discount. PM me if you are interested. |
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howie3 Regular user 107 Posts
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On 2012-02-22 02:29, Tonylew wrote: Was this a pitch for you to sell YOUR set's of Phlye? Your kidding right, your going to rip Mark Mason's work then try to peddle YOUR set's of Phlye? What a joke, the mods have to delete this post please. There is a place to sell your things, it's called Tricks & effects for sale or trade... just in case you weren't aware. |
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bowers Inner circle Oakboro N.C. 7024 Posts
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I have both sets and like both of them.
in terms of durability they are both excellant. I like marks handling and routien better with cfwm. if I were to sell one it would be phyle just because I like cfwm better just my preference. todd |
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Tonylew Regular user Tracy, CA 184 Posts
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I was not attempting to peddle my sets *as I have yet to receive them*. PLease note that I made no mention of a price. *I was just trying to issue a heads up.* I believe that I stated clearly that I intend to sell my sets in the Café market place when they arrive so I am quite aware of its existence. I am also sure that I have seen similar postings in this type of forum in the past.
FWIW I own and am very happy with Mark Mason's MIracle Chip and his new Swadling flipper that I just upgraded from a JFK to a Walking Liberty. I just don't happen to like his CFWM for the reasons that I stated above. If everybody agreed on such matters we would all be doing identical versions of each effect. I don't believe that would go over too well with our audiences. |
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howie3 Regular user 107 Posts
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On 2012-02-22 02:29, Tonylew wrote: Was that necessary? Really? Putting that in a open forum. And just admit you had a agenda to sell something, shame on you. |
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Tonylew Regular user Tracy, CA 184 Posts
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Apparently THe Magic Café has acquired a new moderator of forum ethics.
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bowers Inner circle Oakboro N.C. 7024 Posts
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Yea tony
and his making a a## out himself very quick. |
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howie3 Regular user 107 Posts
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^^^Sticks and stones...^^^
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DoctorCognos Elite user 413 Posts
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On 2012-02-24 04:53, howie3 wrote: Just show me where they keep them, and I will pleased to use them! The Doctor
The Doctor Knows.....
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Daniel Clemente Special user Mount Joy, PA 790 Posts
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On 2012-02-27 00:41, DoctorCognos wrote: hahaha I love this forum! |
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howie3 Regular user 107 Posts
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On 2012-02-27 00:41, DoctorCognos wrote: You sure about that doc? Because then, you might need a doctor.
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DJ Trix Inner circle 1197 Posts
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You say ‘sticks and stones’ as if another reestablishing equanimity is condemnable.
Yet you over-zealously use these mechanisms of belittlement that you undermine. These are huge contradictions you have to come to terms with. The most difficult thing one can do is to face themselves. |
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howie3 Regular user 107 Posts
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On 2012-03-02 00:09, DJ Trix wrote: My father always tells me to try to talk your way out of something as I did but if someone is going to use "sticks and stones", then I have the right to defend myself. Does that answer you statement? DR. oh sorry DJ. So I don't have to come to terms with anything. Life is good. 
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DJ Trix Inner circle 1197 Posts
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Chessmann Inner circle 4247 Posts
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Only on the Café can a topic about coin gaffs end up like this. With such a wide variety of members you've got to take the good and the strange.
:)
My ex-cat was named "Muffin". "Vomit" would be a better name for her. AKA "The Evil Ball of Fur".
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Atom3339 Inner circle Spokane, WA 3242 Posts
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Is Sticks & Stones a new coin gaff routine?
TH
Occupy Your Dream |
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David Neighbors V.I.P. 4911 Posts
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No A Book by J.R.
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howie3 Regular user 107 Posts
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On 2012-03-02 11:44, Chessmann wrote: You call them strange, I call them weird-o's that have no life.
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