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luckynumber13
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I'm not sure where to post this dilemma I'm having with magic but seeing as this is the area of magic I love (impromptu with little to no complex gimmicks) it seemed most appropriate. You see when I first got into magic I was obsessed. I always carried decks of cards, spent hundreds of dollars on new tricks, and scoured a ton of Internet sites for content (even and most often ellusionist... When I was new.) but now after obtaining countless DVDs of individual and multiple tricks, grabbed most of the classic and essential books (didn't care for all of them. It becomes repetitive), and have almost all of the Jay Sankey DVDs (my favorite) I feel I no longer am enthralled by magic. I feel that I now have all the core mechanics of magic down pat for the most part and I no longer want more tricks and I rarely go on magic sites anymore. Even if I do get a new trick I don't even try it for awhile. All the new tricks I see just seem to be the same old stuff with nothing new or exciting anymore. I still love performing but has anyone else reached the point where they don't even want anymore magic things and are content with what they have?
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There came a time when I just said, "Enough!".
I have more magic stuff than I will ever need and very, very rarely buy anything new.

We tend to forget that people aren't as familiar with magic like we are and that some of the oldest and simplest tricks still work just fine.

Also, we tend to stop looking at magic from a layperson's perspective and how magic affected us when we began.
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Thank you I'm glad I'm not the only one because I've been doing the same things over and over to different people and get great reactions and when I get something new it never produces the same reaction. I also just realized that if you ever watch David Blaine 99% of his tricks are very very simple yet have incredible reactions. But one more question: does anyone find new tricks repetitive and not that exciting?
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I know how you feel.
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There is an old saying, "pain and suffering may be unavoidable, but misery is a matter of chocie." In the same vein, while "tricks" may be repetetive or boring, finding "excitement" in magic is a matter of choice. The essential question should be why spectators find magic exciting? The real joy of magic, methinks, is the stories a person tells of a magic effect to their grandchildren. Thta story is rarely about the "trick" but the experience of feeling something different inside -- of knowing there is more in life than daily boredom.

Each magic effect in a package, book or DVd gives you some insight into the greater question. Someone else attempted to translate their experience into a package to deliver a tool you might use to better understand life. Magic performance is also special mirror in which you can see yourself. So, whther to purchase new tricks or not is never the real question. You must discover what gives you joy from understanding magic better, and follow ...
"the more one pretends at magic, the more awe and wonder will be found in real life." Arnold Furst



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I think you may have reached a very pivotal point in your career. You know all the sleights and you know how to use them, but lather peoples effects just aren't cutting it for you. Maybe it's time for you to get those creative juice a-flowin' and start creating effects of your own. If all those effects out there seem the same to you then why don't you combine your favorite parts of them to make a brand new effect you can call your own. Just some food fo thought. I hope you find the magic in magic again.

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I've been through this same "burnout" scenario with my guitar playing, it happens frequently. I simply let it ride. After while, inevitably, the old excitement is rekindled again on it's own. Just relax and go with the flow!
The difficult must become easy, the easy beautiful and the beautiful magical.
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If you have enough stuff and feel burnout because nothing is new but still love magic focus on bettering yourself as a performer. Work on your intepretation and presentation of the tricks you do best. Stop buying tricks but start getting into magic books on history. If you like magic at a moments notice read about greats like Max Malini. Sounds like you're more burned out on buying new tricks than on the art of magic.
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Daffydoug,
Very glad I read your comment.I have reached a 'burn out' phase in my children magic.I am ok with my adult magic performances.
I intend to take a step back for awhile.
Charlie
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Yeah. Just let it ride for a while. We are all human and we ALL need a break sometime in our life to re-charge our batteries. It's a fact of life.
The difficult must become easy, the easy beautiful and the beautiful magical.
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Yeah iv had that same feeling but I guess for me whenever I perform the flame is back
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So, have we lost #13???
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My problem is that I am a guy with many interests and a short attention span. I get bored with things soon after starting them. Only two things have ever stuck - piano and magic. But since I'm only a hobbyist, my interest in magic comes and goes. I find that when I pick it back up after a few months of inaction, the flame burns bright again as I discover new things in my old collection. I get the most excited when I find good use for an effect that I had previously disliked.
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I've posted this before, but this is the lesson I learned:

I'm 54, and had four trunks full of magic I've accumulated since 1977. Some new, some old, some RARE collectors items, and hardly ever used anything, but coins, silks, and smaller things. Then, I suddenly lost everything. A foreclosure took it all. Long story. I got out with a few essential items. That's it. I was devastated.

I recently realized, what did I really lose? Just stuff. The "stuff" was not, and IS not who I am. I can still do coin magic. I could still do "Prohibition", even though the original DVD is long gone. I can still pick up a deck of cards, and do some simple stuff that is quite astonishing. My props and books are gone, that's all.

Then I recently discovered I've been a member of The Learned Pig website since 2004! I found my password, and logged in. All the important books are there! And MORE!

What I'm saying is, the tricks you buy may be cool, but eventually they are going to take up space. What if you suddenly find yourself homeless, broke, and out in the street, like I did? It's what you keep inside you, that's important. You never lose that. I think my lesson was a blessing. I never knew what it was like to just have the clothes on my back and a carry-on bag to my name, and the street for my home. I hope that NEVER happens to you or anyone else.

Don't lose the "magic" you have. Not the props. The REAL magic!

Doug
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Great post. Profound thoughts. And it kind of scares me to read.

The only thing I'm curious about is there a reason you didn't move the props to another location before the foreclosure actually commenced?
The difficult must become easy, the easy beautiful and the beautiful magical.
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Well, Daff', long story, but the owner of the house I was renting, did not tell me he was in foreclosure. My car had been crushed weeks earlier by a falling tree, and to top it off, the sheriff came to the door that day, and gave me 24 hours to vacate.

I did come back the following day to retrieve some important things, including my magic, and was immediately taken into custody by the sheriff, for trespassing. I WAS released with a warning to NEVER come near that house again. My belongings (except for the clothes on my back and a carry-on bag) were taken to the dump, I found out later.

Being out of work for 2 1/2 years, and left with nothing, I had some serious re-evaluating to do. LOL! Such is the life of a Radio Announcer!

Doug
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Absolutely,

The best cure for this...perform for a child. Watch the amazement.

Like Jaz said, we look at it from a magicians viewpoint and not a laypersons, and that's when the magic is gone.

Hope this helps,
Brittain Bass
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I'm going through a similar process, and that's all it is a process. I've been caught up in getting the next gig and spending too much money on marketing ideas that don't work. I stopped buying magic and just started gaining more knowledge of magic. I've reached out to other Magicians, here at the Magic Café especially and have come to a conclusion, go back to the basics, just getting out there and performing for people. Not worrying about if I pack the pockets with my core effects, just getting out there and making the connection then using magic as to leave a lasting impression.
Last night, I went to Walmart real late at night. It's open 24hrs so I thought I wouldn't see many people there so I didn't need magic/props to carry with me. As I entered I saw an old friend/coworker and he introduced me to his wife for the first time. He asked the basic questions you an aquaintecne, "How you doin" "How's the family" etc. Then he asks me to to a trick for his wife, right after he tells her I'm the guy he's been talking about that does magic. For the first time in a long time I was stuck, really stuck. I couldn't think of anything I didn't want to do anything corny so I had to rack my brain for something quick, the cold would rush in when the doors opened, people would try to walk between us or wait till we moved. I looked at my friends hand and he had a receipt, a nice size receipt, he had a wagon of stuff. I asked if he needed it, he said no, he handed it to me and I made 3 little paper balls and did sponge/napkin/paper whatever you wanna call it for his wife, they both enjoyed it. Of course my friends reactions were always borderline over the top but it was cool.
Ok, Just get back to the basics. Grab some magic stuff it in your pockets and get out there and perform.
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Every month we receive the magazines that bombard us with the latest and best and rely on that advertising for existence. When you go to a convention, frequently the most exciting place is the dealer room (especially if Mark Mason is doing his thing). We buy because it looks great and it goes home. This huge pile (drawer, cabinet or whatever) of unused magic is created.

Like the Rudolf the Reindeer story, hopefully there is a island for unused or underappreciated or magic. Unfortunately, its called a magic club "auction".
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Read "Maximum Entertainment" and focus on performance, instead of "tricks"-you'll be amazed at the reaction from laymen and energized by their experience.
Best of Luck
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