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dabah2014 Regular user Texas 157 Posts |
Do any of ya'll know about Greg Berman's effect "thought of card signed, numbered, and delivered? Does it work 100% of the time? Would any of ya'll recommend buying it? Thanks!
Matt PS- Here's the link for the description- http://www.imentalism.com/e-books/cards/tocsnd |
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brehaut Inner circle kentucky 2531 Posts |
Dabah--That is my effect. To answer your question. The correct card is in your wallet 100% of the time. The part about the spectator uniquely marking their thought of card and that same unique mark being on the card in your wallet is 100%. The sort of ACAAN portion of the effect (predicting the same number the spectator chose as the location of the thought of card) is probably 90%. However I go into how to deal with a miss and the spectator never even knows you missed. All they realize is that their thought of card with unique marking is found instantly in your wallet. No sleight of hand and everything cam be examined. I have had excellent feedback on the effect. Respected mentalists such as Sean Waters have praised it. Thanks for your interest.
Greg Berman |
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Ben Harris V.I.P. The Land Down Under 2126 Posts |
It's great!
Benny
+Inventor of the world famous Floating Match+
+Author: Machinations (Vanishing Inc, 2020)+ EVERYTHING BEN HARRIS |
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dabah2014 Regular user Texas 157 Posts |
Wow, I can't wait to buy this! Thanks!
Matt |
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KiKi Inner circle GERMANY/ Hannover 1143 Posts |
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On 2010-08-01 18:04, dabah2014 wrote: let us know how you like it. this sounds indeed interesting! kiki |
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Eshla Inner circle 1239 Posts |
What's the hit rate of them "guessing" the card? I presume it's some form of force, but some forces are cleaner than others. You can't just ask them to "name any card" so what's the processes? I am not askig for any form of disclosure, but simply a further description of the effect.
Also, does it HAVE to be inside a wallet? Personally my wallet cannot hold a whole deck of cards, and I'd much rather either have them wrapped up in a secure little bag, or better yet in the spectators hands. I don't know the method here, but I have a few theories and I think this could potentially be done withought ever touching the cards at all.
I come from the future to culture you poor sods with fire.
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Waters Inner circle 2508 Posts |
100%, Yes, OK!
This is not expensive. Buy it and see. It is a simple solution with some elegant nuances. This idea can also be adapted to fit your needs, etc. I really can't say more. (Other than this) If Greg had done this for me, he would have fooled me (with the combined aspects). It will appear exactly as Greg suggests. Regards, Sean |
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brehaut Inner circle kentucky 2531 Posts |
Sean and Ben--Thanks very much for your kind words! Your opinions mean much to me since I respect both of your works immensly. Eshla--not sure what you mean by your statement that your wallet can not hold an entire deck of cards. The spectator mentally selects a card and that ONE card is in your wallet. The wallet and card can be examined. You do not use a deck of cards--the spectator merely thinks of card and then tells you how they would uniquely mark the card and where it is located in the "imaginary deck". When you open your wallet, their card is in it with the spectator's unique "marking" as well as your prediction where the spectator would say the card was located in the imaginary deck. Thanks to everyone for their interest.
Greg |
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JanForster Inner circle Germany ... when not traveling... 4190 Posts |
Can you perform it for just one spectator? Jan
Jan Forster
www.janforster.de |
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Eshla Inner circle 1239 Posts |
Ok, having bought this effect I can now I can say a lot more about it.
The effect is NOT exactly as described by any means. The card is not "signed" at all, atleast not in the traditional sense. Let me put it this way; if this was given a video demonsraition, I doubt anyone would buy it. 1. The card is not "signed". Instead in the effect the card has one corner cut off. You ask the spectator which corner they want cutting off, top-left for example... 2. The card cannot appear anywhere in the deck and the spectator knows this. The advert is extremely different from the actual effect; and if it was a video advert (I will put one up shortly) no one would buy it. Harsh words, but I was expecting more. I had a guess how a card could be forced, and I was right, but I was looking forward to seeing how a card could be "signed" and I was also curious as to how a number between 1 and 52 could be forced cleanly. On both of the latter counts I was disapointed. And I feel I have a right to post a negative review as the advert was so misleading.
I come from the future to culture you poor sods with fire.
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brehaut Inner circle kentucky 2531 Posts |
Eshla,
You certainly have a right to post a negative review (I would note you are the first and I have sold many copies of this effect). I would be deluding myself to think there would be no negative comments. However, I am pleased that mentalists and magicians that I have the utmost respect for such as Sean Waters, Ben Harris and others have praised this effect. Let me address a couple of points. First, the description is accurate. The word "signed" is only used in the title. The descritpion clearly states that the spectator "mentally marks the card in a way that will prove it is her unique card." This idea is new and powerful. One well known mentalist posted a review on Theory 11 stating that he immediately put this portion of the effect into his wallet to card routine and was worth the price of effect. I believe some of your review comes close to exposure. That is disappointing. It is clear you have never performed the effect. I can tell you that you are incorrect that the spectator will know that the card cannot "appear anywhere in the deck". I have done this effect many times without the spectator having any idea. Obviously, you are entitled to your opinion. I will leave it to others to make their own decision whether to rely on your opinion or others who have posted. I believe this effect gives anyone (without any sleight of hand) the ability to have a thought of card appear in their wallet with a unique mark on it to prove it is the spectators thought of card. Eshla, I hope you actually try performing this effect once you put in the proper amount of effort into scripting it and performing. Greg Berman |
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Waters Inner circle 2508 Posts |
Eshla,
Greg's description is accurate.You are certainly entitled to an opinion. This is a clever idea that utilizes a common sense approach with some clever linguistic and statistical nuances. It takes a lot of front to release your ideas for public use; I respect Greg for doing so. Many people will use the idea exactly as described, some will use the nuances with their own routines (and some will do neither). In short, people will make up their own mind on how to use the ideas and routine, but you are so quick to smash something that has potential. "It is easier to burn than to build". If the shoe was on the other foot you would feel differently. Sean |
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Jon Hackett Special user UK 737 Posts |
I have purchased this. But I held back, I didn't want to needlessly comment in a negative fashion on Café members idea. But I feel both of the above posts are overly critical, and slightly aggressive toward a member here.
Sean, I think your being overly aggressive to Eshla, purely because you feel you have the right, in that you are a lot more informed. I also don't think that he has exposed any methods. Moreover, I do not think that this is a good solution, I didn't like any part of the method. It is not suitable for a professional, and it is not suitable for a hobbyist. And Greg, I must say, I am totally baffled by this comment in particular; "I can tell you that you are incorrect that the spectator will know that the card cannot "appear anywhere in the deck". I have done this effect many times without the spectator having any idea." How is that true, do your spectators have difficulty remembering that a 7 is a 7? I was, and am, most surprised at Mr Haris's and Mr Waters' endorsement. However, and here is the big one, they did endorse it. So they either see something here, that I am just not 'getting' or, think about these things differently to me. I genuinely think, the biggest weakness is that if you sat a spectator down after having performed this, and asked how they thought it was done or could be done, they would be dead on correct. To round up, there must be merit in here somewhere, clearly Mr Waters and Mr Harris liked it, I just don't understand it. Sorry. JH [EDIT: at least one of the posts was changed before mine got up]
It is not the brains that matter most, but that which guides them -- the character, the heart, generous qualities and progressive ideas. Doystoyevsky
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Waters Inner circle 2508 Posts |
Jon,
Your opinion is certainly valid, as is Eshla's. In short, I thought the behavioral quirks and verbal ruses combined with the free choice of value was quite clever. Some will agree, others will not. Approval of this routine will hinge on whether that appeals or repels. Regards, Sean |
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brehaut Inner circle kentucky 2531 Posts |
Jon,
I have pm'ed you regarding your concerns. Thanks Greg |
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brehaut Inner circle kentucky 2531 Posts |
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On 2010-08-04 03:18, JanForster wrote: Yes--it can absolutely be performed for just one spectator. Thanks Greg |
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entity Inner circle Canada 5060 Posts |
With "Signed, Numbered and Delivered" Greg has combined several principles in a unique and entertaining way, with some new touches of his own, and offered it for sale at a reasonable price to the amateur market.
As with many card effects, some will love it and others won't see it as something they'll use. I think it's very clever. - entity
email: tomebaxter@icloud.com
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brehaut Inner circle kentucky 2531 Posts |
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On 2010-08-04 11:04, entity wrote: Tom, I appreciate your opinion and kind words--Thanks Greg |
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magicFreak2 Inner circle 1220 Posts |
It is a very intriguing effect. Nothing too astounding, and one or two iffy parts, plus I don't want to go out and buy like e*g*t w*l****s just for the effect.
For the asking price however, its a very tidy effect that can be done anywhere. |
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brehaut Inner circle kentucky 2531 Posts |
A couple of people have PM me asking whether this effect will work with their own card to wallet routine. The portion of the effect where the spectator mentally tells you that they are marking the card in a unique way and then that unique marking is found on the card in your wallet should work with most card to wallet routines. In fact, I know of some individuals who have done just that. The part of the effect where you predict the location of the thought of card in an imaginary deck will probably not work with most card to wallet routines. Keep in mind that I created this effect with the goal of no sleight of hand (so that the performer could concentrate 100% on presentation) and allowing the spectator to examine the wallet and card. Thanks
Greg |
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