The Magic Café
Username:
Password:
[ Lost Password ]
  [ Forgot Username ]
The Magic Cafe Forum Index » » Not very magical, still... » » Net Neutrality (0 Likes) Printer Friendly Version

 Go to page 1~2 [Next]
landmark
View Profile
Inner circle
within a triangle
5194 Posts

Profile of landmark
I know very lttle about this, but some think this is very important. Anyone know more about it and its implications?

http://gizmodo.com/5605310/google-just-killed-net-neutrality
balducci
View Profile
Loyal user
Canada
227 Posts

Profile of balducci
How will this affect pr0n download rates?
Make America Great Again! - Trump in 2020 ... "We're a capitalistic society. I go into business, I don't make it, I go bankrupt. They're not going to bail me out. I've been on welfare and food stamps. Did anyone help me? No." - Craig T. Nelson, actor.
EsnRedshirt
View Profile
Special user
Newark, CA
895 Posts

Profile of EsnRedshirt
Balducci- if you buy the "comcast pr0n package", you'll get lightning fast download rates. If you don't, you'll think you're back on a 9600 baud modem.
Self-proclaimed Jack-of-all-trades and google expert*.

* = Take any advice from this person with a grain of salt.
gaddy
View Profile
Inner circle
Agent of Chaos
3528 Posts

Profile of gaddy
The FCC said afterwards that it was still committed to net neutrality. But it's hard for me to type that and keep a straight face at the same time... Smile
*due to the editorial policies here, words on this site attributed to me cannot necessarily be held to be my own.*
landmark
View Profile
Inner circle
within a triangle
5194 Posts

Profile of landmark
What is pr0n?
EsnRedshirt
View Profile
Special user
Newark, CA
895 Posts

Profile of EsnRedshirt
Landmark, it's netslang, designed to "outwit" filters or content scanners back in days of old. Make the 0 an o, then flip it with the R, and you'll see exactly what it is.
Self-proclaimed Jack-of-all-trades and google expert*.

* = Take any advice from this person with a grain of salt.
Al Angello
View Profile
Eternal Order
Collegeville, Pa. USA
11045 Posts

Profile of Al Angello
Net neutrality as I understand is the only thing that will stop the large corporation from totallt controling the internet. Unless the FCC gets off their butts the internet will be under the controle of corporations like Comcast, Verizon, and Google.
Al Angello The Comic Juggler/Magician
http://www.juggleral.com
http://home.comcast.net/~juggleral/
"Footprints on your ceiling are almost gone"
epoptika
View Profile
Elite user
Florida
477 Posts

Profile of epoptika
gaddy
View Profile
Inner circle
Agent of Chaos
3528 Posts

Profile of gaddy
Quote:
On 2010-08-06 23:01, Al Angello wrote:
Net neutrality as I understand is the only thing that will stop the large corporation from totally controling the internet. Unless the FCC gets off their butts the internet will be under the controle of corporations like Comcast, Verizon, and Google.


I believe that is the intention, and the plan. Before this, they (the companies) just didn't know HOW to kill the internet. Now that they've figured it out, it's only a matter of time before all of "mainstream america" is only looking at what "they" want them to look at.

Those of us on the edge will still have an internet, but very few people other than "us" (and the FBI, I guess) will have much real access to it... The 'Fiber is still gonna be free (I think...) but all the traffic will be throttled at the ISP level.
*due to the editorial policies here, words on this site attributed to me cannot necessarily be held to be my own.*
landmark
View Profile
Inner circle
within a triangle
5194 Posts

Profile of landmark
The 'Fiber? Doesn't all consumer traffic go through some kind of ISP?
Al Angello
View Profile
Eternal Order
Collegeville, Pa. USA
11045 Posts

Profile of Al Angello
We can only hope that the chairmen of the FCC will stand up to the large corporations.
Al Angello The Comic Juggler/Magician
http://www.juggleral.com
http://home.comcast.net/~juggleral/
"Footprints on your ceiling are almost gone"
gaddy
View Profile
Inner circle
Agent of Chaos
3528 Posts

Profile of gaddy
Quote:
On 2010-08-07 07:03, landmark wrote:
The 'Fiber? Doesn't all consumer traffic go through some kind of ISP?

Yes, but anyone with the proper equipment and $$$ can be an "ISP" with their own T1 or (soon) T5 backbone -relatively speaking, it isn't all that expensive...

Serious mofo's can always opt for satellite... There is very little chance that even the big boys would be able to regulate anyone's satellite uplink.


Quote:
On 2010-08-07 09:32, Al Angello wrote:
We can only hope that the chairmen of the FCC will stand up to the large corporations.

Don't bet on it...
*due to the editorial policies here, words on this site attributed to me cannot necessarily be held to be my own.*
epoptika
View Profile
Elite user
Florida
477 Posts

Profile of epoptika
You might go to http://www.MoveOn.org and sign their petition to try to stop the corporate takeover of the internet. Then pass the word to all your friends.

Time is running out on this one.
epoptika
View Profile
Elite user
Florida
477 Posts

Profile of epoptika
Gaddy,
Are you drinking grog from that conch shell?
gaddy
View Profile
Inner circle
Agent of Chaos
3528 Posts

Profile of gaddy
Quote:
On 2010-08-07 19:49, epoptika wrote:
Gaddy,
Are you drinking grog from that conch shell?


Hemlock.
*due to the editorial policies here, words on this site attributed to me cannot necessarily be held to be my own.*
Cyberqat
View Profile
Inner circle
You can tell I work on the net from my
2209 Posts

Profile of Cyberqat
Quote:
On 2010-08-07 16:07, gaddy wrote:
Quote:
On 2010-08-07 07:03, landmark wrote:
The 'Fiber? Doesn't all consumer traffic go through some kind of ISP?


Yes, but anyone with the proper equipment and $$$ can be an "ISP" with their own T1 or (soon) T5 backbone -relatively speaking, it isn't all that expensive...



It is if you want to run your own backbone, that's coast to coast fiber you have to lay. Satellite is impractical for any near-realtime applications due to huge latencies in communication. (The speed of light gets you. Geo-synchronous orbit is much further away then many people realize.)

So while anyone can be a local ISP, they all depend on a small number of very large telcos to reach the rest of the net,
It is always darkest just before you are eaten by a grue.
gaddy
View Profile
Inner circle
Agent of Chaos
3528 Posts

Profile of gaddy
Quote:
On 2010-08-08 00:39, Cyberqat wrote:
Quote:
On 2010-08-07 16:07, gaddy wrote:
Quote:
On 2010-08-07 07:03, landmark wrote:
The 'Fiber? Doesn't all consumer traffic go through some kind of ISP?


Yes, but anyone with the proper equipment and $$$ can be an "ISP" with their own T1 or (soon) T5 backbone -relatively speaking, it isn't all that expensive...



It is if you want to run your own backbone, that's coast to coast fiber you have to lay. Satellite is impractical for any near-realtime applications due to huge latencies in communication. (The speed of light gets you. Geo-synchronous orbit is much further away then many people realize.)

So while anyone can be a local ISP, they all depend on a small number of very large telcos to reach the rest of the net,

I believe the courts have ruled that the telcos must lease fiber to anyone who can buy it. What the cartel's pricing is like compared to their actual cost -I have no idea...

Also, there are a few municipalities who have laid their own fiber. Curiously, the big telcos FOUGHT LIKE RABID DOGS TO HAVE THAT BUSINESS STOPPED...
*due to the editorial policies here, words on this site attributed to me cannot necessarily be held to be my own.*
epoptika
View Profile
Elite user
Florida
477 Posts

Profile of epoptika
The corporations do a very good job of convincing the sheep that anything that might interfere with their relentless redistribution of this country's wealth from the middle-class and poor to the wealthy 10% (or 5%, or 1%) at the top is "evil socialism". We are rapidly becoming transformed into a third world banana republic.

In the words of Spock; "Logic dictates that the good of the many outweighs the good of the few". Or so it should in a rational world.
epoptika
View Profile
Elite user
Florida
477 Posts

Profile of epoptika
I firmly believe it is time to take some lessons from the French revolution and bring back the guillotine.
Cyberqat
View Profile
Inner circle
You can tell I work on the net from my
2209 Posts

Profile of Cyberqat
Well, the french were a trifle over-zealous in he use of that device.

As one whose head might be a candidate (although Im certainly not rich enough to be aristocracy in this country, at east not yet) I'd rather proper redistribution of wealth happened *without* the death of any who happen to have it now Smile
It is always darkest just before you are eaten by a grue.
The Magic Cafe Forum Index » » Not very magical, still... » » Net Neutrality (0 Likes)
 Go to page 1~2 [Next]
[ Top of Page ]
All content & postings Copyright © 2001-2024 Steve Brooks. All Rights Reserved.
This page was created in 0.03 seconds requiring 5 database queries.
The views and comments expressed on The Magic Café
are not necessarily those of The Magic Café, Steve Brooks, or Steve Brooks Magic.
> Privacy Statement <

ROTFL Billions and billions served! ROTFL