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tgold65 Regular user 194 Posts 
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I am a huge TW fan. But I just couldn't bring myself to pay $125 for the box. I just merged his routine and motivation with Sankey's paperclipped. So instead of dumping the card out of the box, I just remove the paperclip. But the rest of the routine is roughly the same.
I have mixed feelings about whether the paperclipped finish is better than the box finish. I think it is really a toss-up from a performance impact perspective.... but the paperclip is definitely cheaper. 
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Dougini Inner circle The Beautiful State Of Maine 7130 Posts
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On 2010-08-21 00:48, tgold65 wrote: It is, tgold, and I like the combining of the two routines. Great idea! Doug |
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Ryan M New user 3 Posts
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On 2010-08-15 15:12, Dougini wrote: I learned the Mercury Card Fold just by taking an old deck of cards and folding every card in that deck. It's not very nice to the cards, but once you've gotten through a whole deck it should be quite natural. On Visions of Wonder, Tommy Wonder says to get 100 decks (if I remember correctly) to practice his Two Second Card Fold. Getting the extra fold neatly is much harder to do that just the first two folds. I don't have the Kennedy Box, but I don't think it's necessary, because once you learn the Mercury Card Fold, it isn't really hard. Eye contact is one way to direct attention to your eyes as well as intensify already existing emotions, but there are lots of other methods that might work well combined with eye contact for example Ricochet explained in Books of Wonder. When doing the card fold, it is probably better done in a moment of relaxation. Tommy Wonder mentions these waves of tension and relaxation in his books, and I'm wondering (no pun intended) if any of you use this idea, and what kinds of techniques you use for this. |
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Ryan M New user 3 Posts
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On 2010-08-21 00:48, tgold65 wrote: I do this too, at least until I can learn to do the Two Second Card Fold well. When I do this, I put the paper-clipped card in a small box that I had just to make sure the audience can't see the card until I call attention to it. It causes more suspense, which I think is important. Also, if the card is on the table in full view, it is possible that when you say that the card on the table is their card, they might grab the card and open it themselves or maybe I'm just paranoid. I have mixed feelings about the difference between the Mercury Card Fold ending and the Two Second Card Fold ending, but I think for laypeople it is similar enough that it isn't very important which one you do. |
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Carrie Sue Veteran user Auburn, MI 332 Posts
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I have generally done Tommy Wonder's Ambitious Card routine concluding with Paperclipped also. Recently I got one of Tabman's replicas of Tommy Wonder's card box, and it is beautiful craftsmanship. So much in fact, that I hardly want to use it in performance.
Still working on the triple card fold. It is difficult to get consistently. Carrie |
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chrismatt Special user Why would you read any of my 978 Posts
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You might want to try this: Using the Paperclipped method, give the S an ordinary ring box, tin, etc. with a paperclipped Dummy inside. When it comes time to reveal the card, ask the S to dump out onto the table whatever is in the box, tin, etc. Pick up the clipped Dummy to display it, remove the clip (doing your move), and hand the folded card to another S to open it.
Good luck! CM
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Ryan M New user 3 Posts
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On 2010-09-01 18:38, chrismatt wrote: I don't think it's a good idea to give the box to a spectator because if someone is holding it, then that one person is in control, but if it is on the table in full view then the box is in the control of everyone. Also, if they were just holding it and dumped the clipped card onto the table, then they should also be given permission to open the card as well. It would look suspicious for the magician to grab the card back and open it himself. |
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MagicLaw New user Dallas, TX 62 Posts
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For the most diverse routines that can be done with cards, bills, predictions, etc., I prefer the Collector's Workshop Billet Box. George Robinson's brasswork and durable craftsmanship is top-rate. Granted, it takes a little more "handling" to really use the Billet Box to its full potential. However, the possibilities are truly limitless (unlike the Kennedy Mystery Box where you must use whatever item the box is designed for). For about the same price, I recommend the CW Billet Box over the Kennedy Mystery Box and the Wonder Ring Box.
"The trouble with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money." -- Lady Margaret Thatcher
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Nicolino Inner circle 2893 Posts
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On 2010-08-15 22:48, rklew64 wrote: For anyone researching on this, it's actually found on p. 141 in the named book!
The Mati Envelope
A brandnew peek device for the working mentalist! Chance's Token Tarot cards in a scenic piece of mystery..... |
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Ade2010 Regular user 157 Posts
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Yeah, $125 is a bit steep for a non-gaffed prop.
I've always preferred Roberto Giobbi's handling. With the Giobbi handling, the illusion is that the spectator removes the card, and the box can be shown 'empty' at the end. For this effect I use a cardboard ringbox, 10 for 99c. |
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Moncle New user United Kingdom 41 Posts
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I am going to sound really annoying .......but it really isn't difficult to make, I got a bit of advice from a model maker and away I went. I own the books and made my ring box to tommy's exact specs and it works brilliantly. I recently crushed my old one and made a new one, ion fact I have two now, this is what I do.
Tools & materials • 3 ply - 3mm sheet wood • 5 mm quadrant, used for making picture frames • coloured felt • Good quality PVA glue • Swan and Morton scalpel • Steel ruler • Tiny brass hinges from Dolls house supplier, + tiny brass knob. and away you go. Ialso got hold of a sectret that Tommy later used to create a bang on accurate card fold into eigths PM if you wanna know. Michael from England. |
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