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Countage
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I have a client that will be using me for twenty shows. He wants to put together a demo video. I am supposed to meet him tomorrow. Should I charge him for my time at the video shoot? Should I charge him the same rate I would charge for a performance? Or, should I only charge him for the twenty shows and comp my time for the video shoot?
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It sounds like you do not have a promo video yourself. So it all depends how he is going to use the material.

I would charge him $1000 for your time. If he is going to run the demo on television then it is $10,000 for your time.

If you can use the material and make a promotional video for selling your show for the next 5 years, then charge him $500 with a clause in the contract that he can only use the video for a one time single promotion and all rights to the video is yours. He cannot do anything with the video without getting permission from you and paying a fee for using your likeness.

If you do not have control over the video then it may wind up on YouTube and you do not know where it will wind up and in what context.

I would seek the services of an Attorney to draw up a contract and make it very legal. You really have to be careful today, it is a new world, the handshake is no longer good, as a mans word is not his bond any longer.

Never work for free, it only lessons your position with the client and he no longer respects you as being a professional.
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My roll in the demo film is more of being a spokesman for this company rather than performing magic. The reason it through me for a loop is I only have a price structure of a stage show and or strolling magic. I am thinking I need to put together a fee structure for consulting and general non performing appearances. I am already all over YouTube. I have done my own video editing and website building. I am due for some updated material though.
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Yes, that would be a good idea, I didn't mean that you are on YouTube, I mean what they can do with stuff you have no control over.

Anyway, you must have a good voice for them to offer this to you, so take advantage and come up with a fee for your as a spokesperson. In Indiana the pay for this type of work is not much at all, but isn't NC a more talent aware area.

I would go for whatever you think the market will pay. Again, do not do it for free, I cannot stress this enough.
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I am afraid I do not agree with this advice.
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Uh oh, I see I am too late. Countage will no doubt have gone for his appointment and I am too late to stop him. I predict great negativity from his client if he follows the advice given.

Still, we will see if I am right or wrong. I eagerly await his report.
Countage
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Well I did the shoot. I got more than what I charge for one show. The client is extremely happy.
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By the way this is what happened. Before we started he asked what the charge would be. I explained my rates and how long my performance normally runs. I quoted him a price based on what thought was fair and consistent with my rates and he accepted.

I believe you should charge for your time.
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Great it worked out for you. It is not only your time but it is called working. In America we get paid to work, that is how you support yourself and family. You are a small business as the president says we all may have to become.

Looks like you have a new career as a spokes person. That is just great!

Get a satisfaction reference letter form him and go for it.
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Well Bill was right here. I didn't agree with his advice and I'm glad it worked out for you countage. I would have been more concerned about the other shows and probably would have comped the demo. Would have been my loss. Ah, open mindedness, if that's even a word.

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