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I haven't been in a McD's in a couple of decades so I'm going on memory and impressions and peeks in the window. Glad to hear it's not so.

Not sure where all the anger at the woman is coming from, even if you don't agree with her suit.
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If it were a male and was being as stupid I would say the exact same thing. So there isn't any anger issues. O.k. sure I get upset when people are so bleeping stupid but still it doesn't matter if it's man woman or child. I would say the same thing not matter what. But me angry over this no. Now where's my baseball bat so I can knock the heads off of some statues or something? Smile j.k.
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On 2010-08-27 18:59, landmark wrote:
Not sure where all the anger at the woman is coming from, even if you don't agree with her suit.


I realize that this was directed at RS, specifically, but while I don't really have what I would call "anger" directed at her, I have at the very least a great deal of annoyance, so I'll take a shot at exploring it.

Since I was very young, one of the things that most offended my sense of justice was people's changing the rules in the middle of the game. The deal is the deal; if you don't like it, you try to make a deal you like. If you don't agree to it, then the resolution is "no deal." So there's really a parlay of annoyances here. First, she agrees to terms, then she goes back on the agreement, then she refuses reasonable accommodations, then she files a suit which will necessitate their spending a lot of money defending their position, or just handing her a lot of money, and I think it's crap. It wouldn't be right if she were doing it to a sole proprietor scraping buy, and it's not any more right just because Disney is a corporation with deep pockets. Getting paid to renege on your deal is crap. Which is one reason I personally had no compunction about answer your hypothetical about if she had been a Christian with a cross. I don't care if it's a Muslim, a Christian, a vegan, or a Martian.
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Come on....if she was a martian it would interest you a bit more.
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. . . if she was a martian it would interest you a bit more.

In that case, Disney would have to design a Hijab with holes for her antennae.
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If she were a martian, she'd probably be cast to work at Alien Encounter, then the lawsuit would be about racial insensitivity.
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On 2010-08-27 18:59, landmark wrote:
Not sure where all the anger at the woman is coming from, even if you don't agree with her suit.


I realize that this was directed at RS, specifically, but while I don't really have what I would call "anger" directed at her, I have at the very least a great deal of annoyance, so I'll take a shot at exploring it.

Since I was very young, one of the things that most offended my sense of justice was people's changing the rules in the middle of the game. The deal is the deal; if you don't like it, you try to make a deal you like. If you don't agree to it, then the resolution is "no deal." So there's really a parlay of annoyances here. First, she agrees to terms, then she goes back on the agreement, then she refuses reasonable accommodations, then she files a suit which will necessitate their spending a lot of money defending their position, or just handing her a lot of money, and I think it's crap. It wouldn't be right if she were doing it to a sole proprietor scraping buy, and it's not any more right just because Disney is a corporation with deep pockets. Getting paid to renege on your deal is crap. Which is one reason I personally had no compunction about answer your hypothetical about if she had been a Christian with a cross. I don't care if it's a Muslim, a Christian, a vegan, or a Martian.

Okay, thanks for explaining your annoyance. That's brave of you, though I don't agree. Not saying I agree with the woman (wasn't trying to distinguish her case from that of a man btw) but I just didn't understand what I perceive to be a level of anger unwarranted by the case. Employers, for example, reneg on the rules all the time--pensions unpaid, contractual raises waived, overtime abuses; very few of these rule violations come to court. And when they do come to court, often the court rules that the rules say the employers can change the rules whenever they want. I rarely hear such anger from conservatives over the changing of the rules of the game in those instances.

If this case does come to court, I think it may force the larger society to examine more closely what exactly religious freedom entails, and what a theatrical context means. And that I think is a good thing, whether the woman wins her case or not.
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What would happen if she tried to work at a stripclub and wore really big bloomers w/ the head scarf? Or at hooters?

And I think they should have micky mouse dress up in various religeous "themes" to ensure we don't offend anyone.


I can't belive I replied to this...
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On 2010-08-28 15:48, mikenewman wrote:


And I think they should have micky mouse dress up in various religeous "themes" to ensure we don't offend anyone.


I can't belive I replied to this...


That would then offend the atheists, and one of them would sue. The world has become full of sue happy morons. Actually the sue happy are WORSE than morons.

I wonder if I just torqued off the morons and those worse than morons?
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Don't worry, most of the morons are over at usenet.
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