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atkinsod Regular user VA 196 Posts |
Eric, that's good to know (about iGenii). I only just subscribed and haven't gotten my first issue yet,so haven't seen an iGenie issue yet. I'm not trying to be an apologist for Magic Magazine; just wanted to point out some considerations. I've seen some iMags out there that are charging almost $5 per issue, and yet you can subscribe to them for less than $20 per year...those are the ones I can't figure out!
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emyers99 Inner circle Columbus, Ohio 4741 Posts |
You'll like I genii. It was a bit of a pain activating the account but I love it now. Active links are a great touch. I don't even want the hard copy anymore.
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videoman Inner circle 6732 Posts |
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On 2011-01-12 14:27, atkinsod wrote: I'm not sure what you mean when you say you're not crazy about it being released to the general public, MAGIC has been available to the general public since it's inception nearly 30 years ago. Did you ever have to flash an IBM card or something in order to purchase an issue? Besides, you're not going to buy the magazine unless you have a genuine interest in magic. Anybody just trolling for secrets would be very disappointed I think. |
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Richard Kaufman Inner circle 2532 Posts |
Subscribe to Genii for $56 for one year and you get:
1. 12 printed monthly copies 2. 12 digital copies of the monthly issues FREE 3. Access to 74 years of back issues online FREE. Subscribe to MAGIC for $54 for one year and you get: 12 paper copies ... and that's all. If you want the digital copy, assuming you have an iPad, you'll pay an extra $4 a month. No iPad, you're out of luck. So, one year of Genii (paper AND digital) = $56 One year of MAGIC (paper AND digital, if you have an iPad) = $102!!! The math should make the choice for you! You're paying almost double for MAGIC and you don't even get any back issues. All online features of Genii are free to all subscribers and viewable on any desktop, laptop, iPad, iPhone, Droid, tablet, and so on. |
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Magiguy Inner circle Seattle, WA 5467 Posts |
Richard makes a great point. I subscribe to both magazines, but I'm really put off by the way that Magic has handled this digital transition, especially since they originally made it seem like this would be an actual benefit to subscribers. Richard, on the other hand, has far exceeded my expectations as a subscriber, leading me to consider saving my money on Magic and investing it in a lifetime subscription to Genii.
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atkinsod Regular user VA 196 Posts |
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On 2011-01-14 01:05, videoman wrote: Well, I've purchased many Magic and Genii magazines at Denny & Lee's and other magic shops, but I've never seen one at the local magazine rack. So while technically it is available to the public, I don't think many are that aware of it. As you said, though, It's probable no big deal... |
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jprace Inner circle 2209 Posts |
I think it's a great idea, but needs some work. I don't have an iPad, but would love to be able to download the magazine as a PDF and put it on my iPod.
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Rizzo Inner circle East Coast 3346 Posts |
The benefit of this not just being a PDF is that it is interactive. You are able to scroll through photos as well as see videos playing. This 1st issue was done well and all who see it will be happy. Most would be disappoinpted with just a PDF compared this current layout. The way this issue is done has various ways to read it,unlike a PDF.Watch the Mac King video on this and you will see how slick it is. I only question the cost,otherwise it shouldl be successful for Magic Magazine
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Tony Miller Loyal user 232 Posts |
I currently use an iPad, an iTouch, a nook, a PC, a laptop and a HTC EVO for my various reading needs. The bulk of my reading is done with the nook. I love the format of Magic Magazine on my iPad and wouldn't want to try it on the phones, the iTouch or the nook. I would like to see it on the PC though.
My review is here: http://anthonyrmiller.com/?p=438 Excerpt follows: If you subscribe to the print edition you will not receive the digital edition for free. I e-mailed Stan Allen about this pointing out that if I didn’t subscribe to the print edition I would save $6.12 over the course of a year by going digital only. Even if you don’t subscribe to the print edition it is cheaper to go the digital route than to buy a copy at your local magic store each month. Stan wrote back explaining that he hopes to see Adobe and Apple but together a subscription model he can use within the next few months (I expect no promise of an ETA as that is out of his control). Once this is in place you will be able to get a digital only subscription, print only subscription or the option to add the digital subscrption to your print edition subscritption for a nominal rate. When wondering why there will be an additional charge for the digital edition keep in mind that there are also the production costs to consider. While you can do a magazine layout in PDF format it is not a bit for bit translation to the iPad. Additional modifications need to be made and additional applications are used to accomplish this. This means an additional expense to the magazine in the form of software licenses and man hours. For now I will continue with my print subscription and buy the digital eidtion until I can get both for one package price. I think this is giant leap forward for both Magic Magazine and the magic community. Going digital will mean a wider distribtuion for the magazine. A wider distribution for the magazine means more interest in magic. More interest in magic benefits all of us. My only worry is advertisers wanting to embed video in their advertisements. Yes it would be nice to see video of the item for sale but I worry about how much space that will add to the download.
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emyers99 Inner circle Columbus, Ohio 4741 Posts |
This stinks because I just renewed but wouldn't have had I known the digital version would come at a cost. I don't even want the hard copy.
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videoman Inner circle 6732 Posts |
Eric,
Worth checking to see if your subscription can be exchanged for the digital version. I'd give them a call if I were you. |
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emyers99 Inner circle Columbus, Ohio 4741 Posts |
I hope they make that an option. Atbleast I've got the genii digital issues.
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JonParis New user 11 Posts |
You can see a Mac King video of the new format on the Magic site http://www.magicmagazine.com/digital/
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Dennis Michael Inner circle Southern, NJ 5821 Posts |
I have fell in love with the digital version. What sold me completely was the videos and discussion by Jonie Spina on Presentation. This article alone was worth the $3.99 price.I also liked other articles. For the Card Magician, in addition to reading how to do a specific routine/trick, you can watch a video of it.
I emailed MAGIC and asked if I can convert my new subscription to the digital subscription. They agreed to send me back my money. Right now I must purchase month by month, however, an annual online subscription will be available in the near future. This month Jan 2011, is the first digital Magazine, future magazines will have added functions, this is new for MAGIC, and will improve as time goes by. For those new to technology, get use to it because, this idea of TABLET (iPad and Clones) will be the next wave in mobile computer tech stuff. Get on board now. My iPad with a ZaggMate Keyboard replaces my laptop for most of my needs. This Technology will kill Notebooks, and mini computers. -Dennis
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Merenkov Elite user 413 Posts |
The electronic version of Magic Magazine is fantastic; it's the future of magic magazines. As others have pointed out, this is much more than just a PDF of the physical magazine, it is an immersive experience. The publication can be navigated in an easy, non-linear way, and the addition of video is what really makes this a game-changer (magic is a visual art, after all). I've tried the digital copies of Genii on my computer, I appreciate the value Richard is trying to give his subscribers with all the back issues, but I find it clumsy and hard to navigate. To me it's unusable. Maybe the iPad version of Genii will be more user friendly? I would actually rather pay for back issues (assuming they were provided in the same easy-to-use format as the Magic Magazine for iPad), than get it for free in a format that is hard to use and look at.
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Merenkov Elite user 413 Posts |
As an addendum to my post above, I'd like to point out that I actually prefer the print edition of Genii over Magic Magazine, in terms of actual content. I'm a Genii subscriber (and let my subscription to Magic expire years ago). But I am blown away by what Magic Magazine is doing with the iPad (and its implications for the future).
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emyers99 Inner circle Columbus, Ohio 4741 Posts |
I agree that this is the future and hopefully this will keep the magic magazine business a viable business for years to come given the reduced overhead that will likely come with the elimination or reduction of printing costs as more and more people migrate to digital only subscriptions (I will be one).
The addition of video in the talk about tricks section is a nice touch but they need to do a demo video of every trick/move before going into any explanations. Even if all they do is a demo video (eliminating any explanation videos) so we can see what the tricks/moves should look like, that would be great. another nice addition would be demos of the tricks they review each month (performed by the reviewer not the stock MTV edited demos), but I'm assuming that would be a lot more work and data space. |
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Merenkov Elite user 413 Posts |
Eric, I agree with almost everything you just said. I wish the videos in the Talk About Tricks section were embedded in the page itself, like they did for the article on Mark Setteducati. I think it's just a more elegant-looking solution, as opposed to being taken away to a new frame to see the video. But this is also their very first electronic issue. I'm sure it is going to evolve over time. I wonder if the overhead truly will be less compared to print, when all is said and done. Because now they will have the overhead of video production (studio time, filming, editing, etc.). And they also have the additional software-related costs. To me, the iPad version of the magazine is worth more than the print copy, mainly due to the video content.
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wilko7 Regular user UK 135 Posts |
If I got the digital version via iTunes on my pc, could I put it onto my iPhone to view on the move? Would it be functional ie video links, zoom in & out etc. This would be great for me.
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Merenkov Elite user 413 Posts |
Wilko, the Magic Magazine app in the iTunes store was designed for the iPad and will only work on the iPad. Trust me, you wouldn't want to read it on an iPhone anyway. It's a beautiful app that takes full advantage of the iPad's 10" screen. You need to get yourself an iPad.
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