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Crazy question, I suppose, but my music partner Hans insists that there was a big to-do in the German press regarding the pronunciation of Ronald Reagan's name. The theory (conspiracy theory?) goes like this:

until Reagan ran for President, he had always gone by the name Ronald "Ree-gun"--as an actor and as governor.

I have never heard this before, and it seems ridiculous to me. I told Hans so. He stuck to his guns.

So: without looking it up (because surely there must be some old cigarette commercials on YouTube where Ronnie says, "Hello, I'm..."), what have any of you heard about this?

Weigh in without looking it up. Then, after the thread has progressed, let's look for those old cigarette commercials.
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It's been Raygun as long as I can remember.
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Got me.

I do know that Sam Yorty pronounced the city of which he was mayor for twelve years los-ang-guh-less.

I also know that Tom Lehrer, in his song George Murphy (on the album That Was The Year That Was, released in 1965), pronounced it ray'-gun (rhyming it with Helen Gahagan); that's at least some evidence that Reagan pronounced it ray'-gun before running for President.
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I'd never heard it as anything other than Ray-Gun. This is consistent with his Irish heritage (e.g. the Irish poet Yeats rhymes sounds like the American novelist Yates, not like the British poet Keats; I believe this stems from The Great Vowel Shift). Without having looked it up, I tend not to believe Hans.
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Hans is untrustworthy; we should never believe anything Hans says; actuarially, he's a bad risk.
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Ray-Gan. Guaranteed. I've been to the Reagan Library (fantastic!!!) and he also helped me once with a Disney promotion I produced.
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Either way Ray-Gun sounds much more "Don't screw with me cause I'm the President".
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On 2010-08-27 14:45, stoneunhinged wrote:
Crazy question, I suppose, but my music partner Hans insists that there was a big to-do in the German press regarding the pronunciation of Ronald Reagan's name. The theory (conspiracy theory?) goes like this:

until Reagan ran for President, he had always gone by the name Ronald "Ree-gun"--as an actor and as governor.

I have never heard this before, and it seems ridiculous to me. I told Hans so. He stuck to his guns.

So: without looking it up (because surely there must be some old cigarette commercials on YouTube where Ronnie says, "Hello, I'm..."), what have any of you heard about this?

Weigh in without looking it up. Then, after the thread has progressed, let's look for those old cigarette commercials.

http://forum.dvdtalk.com/other-talk/4639......gan.html

"I just got the new Merv Griffin DVD set. cool set by the way. I found it interesting that 2 times so far in watching less than half the interviews Ronald Reagan's name came up. In the 60s early 70s a couple of times Merv and Sammy Davis Jr and I believe John Wayne referred to him as Ronald Ree-gun not Ray-gun. Was this the common pronunciation at the time? Anyone know? Why did it change? How did Ronnie feel about it?"
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Okay, so Hans' theory sounds nutty to me. However ...

It sounds as though Reagan knew how his name was pronounced, but others in the movie / tv / entertainment industry and in politics were not so sure initially. So it seems entirely reasonable to me that if his name was ever mentioned over the credits at the end of a movie, some voice over announcer might have easily mispronounced it.

http://www.people.com/people/archive/art......,00.html

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Their ancestors are from Ireland, but somehow President Ronald Reagan and Treasury Secretary Donald Regan managed to be born into families of different persuasions concerning the spelling and pronunciation of their name. Regan reports that the President talked to him about their name problem when the Secretary was appointed late last year and even had a joke ready for the occasion. "When I was first running for office and wasn't well known," Reagan began, "this gentleman was preparing to introduce me at a luncheon in New York the next day." The man tossed in bed trying to figure out if the candidate's name was pronounced 'Ree-gun' or 'Ray-gun.' Finally he got up and went for a walk, and ran into Henny Youngman out walking his dog. He confided the problem to Youngman. Henny asked whether the candidate was Irish. Told he was, Youngman declared, 'It's Ray-gun, I guarantee it. I know how those Irishmen pronounce their names. It's definitely 'Ray-gun.' " The gentleman thanked Henny, then politely admired his dog and asked what kind it was. "Thank you," said Youngman. "it's a bagel."
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It didn't help with the pronunciation any when he appointed Donald Regan (pronounced "Ree-gun") as his 1st term Treasury Secretary.
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Back during his Star Wars defense system days, we started calling him Ray Gun. I actually developed a magic routine of Ronald Ray Gun vs Gadaffi Duck. I actually found a picture of Daffy Duck with a box full of rockets (fireworks)!

The trick invoved a deck that exploded to reveal a chosen card. Lots of fun, but the topical-ness soon became obsolete.
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I used to watch Ronnie when he hosted Death Valley Days as well as his western films. As far back as I can recall it's always been Ray-gan.
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Good news! I'm not crazy afterall.

When I was a kid, he was Ronald REEGAN. Here's the proof...
http://www.tcm.com/mediaroom/index.jsp?cid=178703

Unable to locate any Death Valley Days clips yet but you will notice the announcer in this GE clip seems rather tentative in his pronunciation. This was during Reagan's transition to politics. I'm 99.99% sure he used to pronounce it With the long e sound in the fifties.
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Unless mispronounced his family always used Raygun. I new a guy pronounced Ree gun and his name was spelled Regan...
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It's pronounced Dai.
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Landster, you don't realize how close I came to that same answer.
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On the Woodstock album, they call him Rrraaayyygun-Zap.

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I know everything, and it's always been RAY-gn...
Things are more like they are today than they've ever been before...
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On 2010-08-28 00:01, ClintonMagus wrote:
I know everything, and it's always been RAY-gn...

LOL!!
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