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Vorezo Loyal user 248 Posts |
I like the idea of the routine but from what I saw, it could all be done impromptu and there is already a similar gimmick (from what I saw in the demo) in print I believe. I will check out where I saw the similar gimmick and post if I find it.
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Cyberqat Inner circle You can tell I work on the net from my 2209 Posts |
Whelp at $15.00 I impulse bought.
Initial reaction: very simple, clever, and it packs a great punch. All in all, good magic! As a very basic card man (when I was seriously studying I specialized in coins) I'm going to have to learn a few moves to do the routines presented, but they are probably moves I should be learning anyway.
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Steve Haynes Inner circle Southeastern United States 1119 Posts |
I love the simplicity and visual on this.
Im going to use it where I have a spectator select a card and another simply think of one and then find the lost selection in an impressive way and then ask the other spec to concentrate on their thought of card as I push the first selection through the deck and they see a visual change into their thought of card! If you wanted,you could routine it so you remove the first selection from your pocket to end,which would be a nice three phase routine with plenty of variaty,but I would stop after the visual change,as that's the moment that will be remembered. Also like the fact it can be ready to go at any time. S |
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Cameron Francis V.I.P. 7025 Posts |
Vorezo, the gimmick might not be what you think it is. I've seen ways of doing similar thing in an impromptu manner, but not that clean looking.
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james_thecanadian_magician Veteran user 330 Posts |
Dave Forrest just keeps knocking them out of the park. I'm going to have to get this.
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Dave Forrest Special user Scotland 857 Posts |
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On 2010-09-07 19:19, Vorezo wrote: Hi Vorezo, You may have seen a similar idea in Geoff Webber's book, 'Rabbit Free Magic', which I only became aware of yesterday when Geoff contacted me. I promptly sent him the download for comparison and he replied: "I see that they are indeed different approaches to achieve the same mechanical goal." It's a case of two different methods, independently created, to achieve the same end result. Personally, I'd say my own approach is a simpler more 'streamlined' way of achieving the effect but that's only based on what I know of Geoff's gimmick which is a brief description that he provided me with in an email. It's not to take anything away from Geoff's method at all - credit where it is due - and I urge you all to seek out his book, buy it and compare for yourselves. That's the joy of our obsession - you can always find a good reason why you NEED to buy more magic. Also, while most of the main 'Tunnel Vision' routine can be done impromptu (and is roughly 75% gaff free, in fact!) it builds to the final phase where the gimmick is employed, providing a moment that I don't believe could ever be replicated as cleanly with pure sleight of hand. I often approach the construction of magic with this 'sleight/gimmick' combination in mind - I think it's a good way to go. Look at Colour Burn as an example. Four or five cards change from blue to red in more traditional ways before the gimmick comes into play providing a colour change that again, I don't think could be achieved with sleight of hand alone. My ultimate aim in this type of construction is to always be answering your spectators internal questions. So, let's say you turn a double face down and push a different card to the one you displayed through the deck - it changes when it comes out the other side, naturally. Your spectator will probably be thinking something like: "That's impressive. I don't know how it was done but if he expects me to believe that the card is actually changing as it goes through the deck then he's madder than he looks. He must have quickly switched it or something..." So, you show them again, this time you 'prove' it's one card going in via some sleight of hand technique and again it changes. That answers the spectators first internal query but usually generates another, more far fetched one to replace it: "Maybe they're 'heat sensitive' cards..." This builds and builds - each time you further 'prove' what you are doing and each time the spectator generates some new 'solution' and each time they do - their possible solution will become more and more far fetched. Because you are giving them less and less room to maneuver each time, they will begin to mentally clutch at straws. Now is the time to use a gimmick. Now you will close the sub-conscious 'Q&A' you've both been having by tabling some evidence of your claim (in this case that a card is changing as it is pushed through the deck) that is impossible to debate. It's the perfect time to unleash a gimmick - a secret weapon - that allows you to spell out your point in a slow, deliberate action that cannot be denied. Phew - that went on a bit but, I hope you see my point. And, I hope you also see that, while Tunnel Vision may be a cool gimmick it's also a lot more. These are not just routines hastily cobbled together - they have been specifically 'designed' to maximise the potential of the gimmick both technically and presentationally. Anyway, thanks for all the kind words on 'Tunnel Vision'. I came up with it years ago and have toyed with it on and off over that time, continually simplifying it and tweaking it until it was ready. I think at the stage it's at now it's a pretty useful tool. Glad you all seem to like it and more importantly, I hope you all use it for real people. All the best, Dave.
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Olympic Adam Inner circle 1259 Posts |
I did buy it and it's really nice! I will definitely be using it. It's hard sometimes to appreciate amazing things from our perspective knowing the workings of tricks, but this is one where the layman will really be amazed.
I was in two minds as to where I would spend my magic money, glad I chose this over the other option, I knew I would be using it!
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ahzhe Regular user 180 Posts |
Similar to converter
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Stucky Inner circle I'm Batman! 1355 Posts |
How bulky is said gimmick should you want to do something else with the deck afterward? Will it get in the way of other things or get caught up easily in a shuffle (overhand or riffle) or even a card spread?
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JamieD Inner circle London 1798 Posts |
The gimmick is non bulky. It shouldn't get caught up in a shuffle. The cards can be spread and everything shown normal after the trick. It can be palmed out at any point.
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Olympic Adam Inner circle 1259 Posts |
If you carry a few gimmicks, you can easily add this to the pile, no trouble to bring and definitely worth it.
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Luke Dancy Inner circle Las Vegas 1157 Posts |
Dave is a clever guy and I always look forward to what he's working on. His devious use of gimmicks combined with sleight of hand equals pure goodness.
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Cyberqat Inner circle You can tell I work on the net from my 2209 Posts |
Yup, easy to add or remove from a perfectly normal deck if you can do a basic palm of a single card.
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Steve Haynes Inner circle Southeastern United States 1119 Posts |
No need to palm,just pick the card case up and put it in your pocket.
Natural thing to do and the gimmick is gotten rid of. So no worries for people who may think they have to palm a card to do this. |
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Cyberqat Inner circle You can tell I work on the net from my 2209 Posts |
Well, you DO need to be able to do a few simple sleights to do the routines he demonstrates. Nothing hard, even for a basic card worker like me, and no palming AIR in performance, but there are a few moves you do need.
My reference to palming was if you want to "load" a totally clean deck with this or "unload' the gimmick and hand the deck for examination. Yes you can put the whole deck in a card case and put it away if you just want to end Frankly, though, I always thought a basic palm was one of the easiest sleights to learn, but I realize YMMV.
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Dave Forrest Special user Scotland 857 Posts |
Let me chime in here.
I'd say you need basic to intermediate skills to perform all three of the Tunnel Vision routines but that's only if you want to do the routines exactly as taught. For example and right off the top of my head, you could simply have a spectator 'choose' a card - let's say the 6 of Hearts - then lose it into the pack. Now display another card - let's say the King of Clubs - and cut it into the centre of the deck, crossways - ala Tunnel Vision. When you push the King of Clubs through the deck it will change into the 6 of Hearts as it emerges on the other side. I'm pretty sure those who own TV will agree that this basic routine could be acheived with just one sleight - a double lift. Right? So, to summarise, the Tunnel Vision routines do require some sleight of hand but you don't HAVE to be proficient in sleight of hand to use the gimmicks themselves. You could just use the gimmicks as described above. I should also mention that any sleight used is also taught - I think I even briefly teach the Elmsley Count! Hope that helps. Dave.
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Cyberqat Inner circle You can tell I work on the net from my 2209 Posts |
Heh,
True and, ironically Dave, I find the double lift to be the hardest slight I've ever tried to learn (Well except the classic pass, but I couldn't even figure out how to start on that one.) Watching you do the push-off though I think I'm starting to get the hang of that and I've ordered Double Take in order to improve my double-lift skills Great illusion btw Dave. Something I'm very glad I bought and, as per another discussion I'm having, something that was advertised and demoed VERY fairly. Kudos/
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Olympic Adam Inner circle 1259 Posts |
You could use the gimmick with no sleights at all, though the selection couldn't be signed.
The video demos of stuff from Full52 are excellent, in terms of production and what they show. DeLorian had an edited video but that didn't take away from the effect's presentation. This is the way I want effects marketed and I have to say it works, I am finding myself having to gather some lesser material from other sources in fear of becoming a bad version of Full52's videos The effects are just too good not to use.
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Mark Elsdon Loyal user 249 Posts |
This is another winner from Dave and an easy buy for anyone who enjoys drect, visual card magic.
As usual with Dave the method is very clever. He really is a smarty-pants! I watched the demo video and could not think what the gimmick might be. He has combined several principles into one seamless concept that makes the tricks as simple to perfrom as they are enjoyable to watch. The Tunnel Transpo is my favorite, but to be honest they are all great. Highly recommended. Cheers, ME
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Failed Magician Inner circle Still working on the DL even after made 2100 Posts |
How thick is the gimmick? And what's the difference between this and Converter?
Magic comes through perception. -HS
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