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Besides magic one of my big interests is weight lifting and bodybuilding. I used to weight lift about 20 or so years ago. Over the past two years I have gotten back into working out with weights again.

My max bench press was 200 pounds - 20 years ago.

My max bench press last year was 225.

My goal - perhaps one or two years away is to break the 300 pound max - and also be able to put 200 pounds on the bar and then pump off about eight to ten reps in my weekly workout.

However unlike 20 or so years ago I do spend a lot of the workout core training.

Just another interest I have besides magic.

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Admit it Glenn, 20 years ago 'core' wasn't a word used!
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My best bench was 315, but only the squat and deadlift count Smile That was a single.
My best squat is 405 for 20 reps. Breathing squat style which means the last 12 of those reps I had pauses standing with the weight. Never tried a single on squats. Might this year though.
Best deadlift is 415 for a triple.
Just started competing in Highland Games this year. Came in last place in my class but will do better next year. Was doing too much cardio before the event.
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Come see me to find out what happens to a weight lifter when he gets fat!

Lifting is really technique. I've seen big dudes just not able to lift and others that have it down get the weights up.

Critter, did you do the pole toss?
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Yup. There's pictures on my MySpace, and on here somewhere.
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I do squats as part of my core training. I don't deadlift. I do a 4 day work out split routine - core training 4 times a week - Two days a week I do shoulders and arms. The other two days legs - chest and back.

It is working for me.

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On 2010-09-11 20:36, MagicSanta wrote:
Admit it Glenn, 20 years ago 'core' wasn't a word used!

Perhaps - but some of the bodybuilders did work the mid-section and have what people today call "the six pack".

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You're right. And 100 years ago there was an emphasis on core, even if they didn't have the word. They would say "trunk" or "midsection" or something similar. Probably the single most popular lift in those days was the bent press, also known as the screw press, which utilizes every single muscle in the core.
Arthur Saxon was the master of this lift. Louis Cyr and the incredibly famous Eugen Sandow were also known for it. These three are pretty much the trifecta of Victorian strongman.
Fun little trivia, there's a new commercial out, I think it's for Arby's, that has a strongman pressing a shot loaded dumbbell (what is usually known as a "circus dumbbell" these days) and that strongman is Eugen Sandow who was pretty much the first modern bodybuilder in that he trained to shape his body as well as making it stronger.
It's sad that bodybuilding has flipped now to purely shape with function being incidental.
I long for a return to the early days when a bodybuilder had to also demonstrate a strength skill like handbalancing or a lift.
Bill Pearl felt the same when he did guest posing, which is why he developed his Sandow tribute strongman show for those events.
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I competed in Olympic Lifting in the early '70's. I weighed 137, press 225,
C & J 275. Didn't compete in power lifting, but benched 300 in the gym. I still work out four times a week. I'm 64 now and Bob Sheets likes to say that if you cut my head off, I look 25.

I like Marius Pudzianowski ( World's Strongest Man ) because he's super strong, yet looks like a bodybuilder.
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Pudz is awesome. And he looks like that while eating more Snicker's bars than anybody in history! That's a hard working dude.
Francis Brebner is another dude who has a bodybuilders physique. He's a retired Highland Games champion who now acts as an official. Dude has the biggest arms I've ever seen, and I've met Ronnie Coleman, Gunter Schlierkamp, and Jay Cutler.
Brebner's arms are better than all of them.
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Critter can relate to this cuz of his dad and others might appreciate it. We had a SEAL team with us on a destroyer (I was staff for them) and they would lift free weights at sea...you got that? Rolling ship andt hey are using free weights! The East Coast SEALS at that time were all upper body (West Coast were runners). Those dudes lifted all the time. One guy named Yancy had 30 inch biceps, bald black guy, and was only about 5'5". The lady doc in port saw his weight and sent a messege that he had to lose x amount of pounds or be tossed out for being fat! There wasn't an ounce of fat on that guy, and he wasn't a nice fellow. We go into port and we take him to the doctor (as staff I had access to the car) and he walks into this lady docs office buck naked and says "Show me my fat". She wrote it down that he was okay...muscle mass. We laughed.

Note: The reason they were so into the upper body was they had to be able to climb rope onto oil rigs quickly with their equipment and that took streangth, big dudes, they would beat my arse too.
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Speaking of Rope Climbing, 45 - 50 years ago the Rope climb was a competitive gymnastics event. The fastest time up a 20 foot rope using only your arms was the winner. And, you started from a sitting position on the gym floor. I thought I was pretty good at 4.9 secs. World record was 2.8 secs! The guy who held the record used two and a half strokes to hit the top.
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Arthur Saxon, Eugen Sandow, I would also add George Zottman and perhaps John Grimek to that list as well.

However the names that inspired me when I was young were Steve Reeves, Gordon Scott, Gordon Mitchell, Mark Forest (Lou Degni), Reg Lewis and Brad Harris.

I am also a fan of Franco Columbu a two-time Mr. Olympia who is also one very strong power lifter. I am also inspired by Bill Pearl, Dave Draper, Chet Yorton and Larry Scott.

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When I first became interested in weight training, John Grimek was in his late forties but still well known for his physique and athleticism. He was the first Mr. America, on the 1936 Olympic Weightlifting team and was well known for his flexibility. He had it all.
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Dave Draper's wife helped me through a tough time in my life. That family is all class.
Santa that is a long standing issue I have had with the old BMI tests, most professional athletes are considered obese based on weight to height. Muscle is denser than fat people!
Personally, I really am fat, but I work on it. I'm also strong and quick so it all evens out.
Here's my current routine if anyone is interested:
M-W-F: 20 rep deadlifts, side press.
M-F: Dumbbell Bench-flat and incline, "Perfect" Pull-ups, chins, rows, skull crushers. Other Auxilliary exercises get rotated into the mix. Abs also on these days alternating "wheel of pain" and hanging leg raises, sometimes medicine ball crunches or romans for variety.
Every day: Basic calisthenics= push-ups, burpees, star jumps, that kind of stuff. I do 8 different types of these low reps every morning just to get things lubricated.
Cardio just about every day- alternating rowing machine, treadmill, speedbag, shadow boxing. I ride my bike from building to building when I'm at school too. Take stairs whenever possible.
I also do isometrics, gripper work, and sledgehammer work as well as practicing my Highland Games Heavy Events every other day.
I have a caber I cut myself, and chain weights I made myself.
After October the weights part of my workouts will be switching to a powerlifting triples based format for a two month power cycle.
I rotate and deload as necessary to avoid overtraining.
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I can lift about 14 pints of Guinness during a happy hour.
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the saddest are, "It might have been"

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Reminds me of the old "Guinness for health" campaign.
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Magician studs like y'all need to remember one of the first magician studs, the fantastic and amazing Wesley James.

When I was a kid rope climbing was required tests in elementary school...I sucked at it.
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Speaking of magician studs, right before this was posted I wrote a brief summary of Houdini's Physical Culture connection in the Period Magic section.
I just re-posted it in magicians of old though cause it's better there.
http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......um=134&0
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Houdini was a beast....he ran around in a banana hammock, which was surprising since he didn't do kids shows.
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