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BarryTX
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I recently picked up J.B. Bobo's Modern Coin Magic book to learn some new coin sleights. Without posting any specifics of anything in the book, I find that I don't have the limberness or dexterity with certain fingers that is needed for certain moves. I realize this should develop with repeat practice of the move, but my question is if anyone has found any hand / finger exercises that can augment the sleight practice and then speed up the process of developing dexterity, strength, and limberness in the fingers? Thanks in advance.
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Hi Barry,

I'm not an experienced coin worker, I'm working through the basics as well and some moves will take practice for the fingers to get used to.

When I started learning guitar the four fingers would hardly cover 4 frets. But as I practised the finger dexterity improved and I can play the notes with ease.

What I learnt from my experience with guitar is that not everyone learns at the same pace. One has to be patient and not treat the learning process as a chore.

There is also a finger fitness Dvd at Xtremehands so you can take a look and see if that's what you want.

-octave
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Hi Barry,

If you are starting out with coin magic, I suggest you read up on the classic palm. In my opinion, in order to execute that palm, you do not need a lot of dexterity. You need to develop muscles around that area to palm the coin properly.

But otherwise, I believe, practise is key.
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Thanks - I've got the Classic Palm down pretty well, I bought the Bobo book to start learning others. What I've found is difficulty using my 2nd and 3rd fingers to hold and move the coin, like in the Edge Palm. Again I figure lots of practice will get me there, I just wondered if there was some extra exercising that could help. I will check out the Xtremehands thought.
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Check out Greg Irwin's site.
In particular his DVD - Finger Fitness / The Complete Hand Workout

http://www.handhealth.com/


But the main key is practice, it will be awkward at first, but will become second nature sooner than you can imagine.
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What I learned in both Japanese sword work and in Aikido, "Fast is slow, slow is fast." The best exercise is to practice doing it right slowly, speed comes by itself. I find dexterity also works this way.
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Just make sure that you're practicing efficiently. Ammar has a couple of articles on this that you could probably look up. Focus on which sleights you'd like to improve, and dedicate a specific amount of time working on them. You should be seeing results after a little while.
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Yup. You need to train your fingers and the only thing that does that is practice.

Having said that, Father P is right for at least two good reasons. First of all, speed comes automatically with practice, but if you go too fast to star tand practice the wrong things you'll only be speedy at doing the wrong things. Besides, speed really isn't the goal here. The old statement that the "hand is quicker then the eye" is nonsense. Its not about speed, its about naturalness of motion .

Secondly, dexterity comes from short muscle. Strength comes from long muscle. Short muscle is encouraged to grow by slow, precise motions not big, fast or heavy ones (those encourage long muscle growth). This is a key piece of biology behind tai chi. Watch the exercises they do sometimes....
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On 2010-09-18 21:28, octave wrote:
When I started learning guitar the four fingers would hardly cover 4 frets. But as I practised the finger dexterity improved and I can play the notes with ease.


I've been wondering about this as a new magician. I find that the dexterity I've gained over the years in guitar seems to translate when I tinker on piano, and wondering if that flexibility will help with magic.
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On 2010-09-19 18:09, Father Photius wrote:
What I learned in both Japanese sword work and in Aikido, "Fast is slow, slow is fast." The best exercise is to practice doing it right slowly, speed comes by itself. I find dexterity also works this way.


The Padre is correct on that.

If you learn proper form on the piano (NOT an electronic keyboard), those finger exercses would surely help with coin magic. You would also develop another low-paying skill to fall back on.
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You might want to try heading over to Show me the Money, talk to the coin guys over there. They probably have some good ideas.
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Just practice a lot and give it a rest to your hand ... After few days surprisingly you can do the sleight easier Smile
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