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hugmagic Inner circle 7655 Posts |
Still bouncing. I don't have any idea.
Richard
Richard E. Hughes, Hughes Magic Inc., 352 N. Prospect St., Ravenna, OH 44266 (330)296-4023
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magicman56 New user 12 Posts |
Richard
Is there any way you can post the picture on your website? Kelvin Posted: Sep 25, 2010 12:10am Richard; Can you just explain to me what the silk looks like? Also, what would be the cost? If it's cost prohibitive, really doesn't matter anyway! Thanks! Kelvin Posted: Sep 25, 2010 1:06am Richard; I found a pic of the rocket silk at: http://www.hughesmagic.com/catalog/silks/special.html Looks good, but it's a bit out of my price range. Thanks anyway! Kelvin |
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hugmagic Inner circle 7655 Posts |
I didn't put a price on it I thought as it was a custom silk. I just posted the picture to show you.
I will take it off now. I sure wish we could figure out what is wrong with your email so I could write direct. Richard
Richard E. Hughes, Hughes Magic Inc., 352 N. Prospect St., Ravenna, OH 44266 (330)296-4023
www.hughesmagic.com email-hugmagic@raex.com Write direct as I will be turning off my PM's. |
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magicman56 New user 12 Posts |
Richard;
I just compared the prices to some of the other silks there shown there. Not sure about the email either. I don't have trouble with any other contacts. Thanks anyway! Kelvin |
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Mac_Stone Inner circle Miami, FL 1420 Posts |
Levent's gimmick is made of plastic and with just a slight modification works just like a normal Palmo.
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Mac_Stone Inner circle Miami, FL 1420 Posts |
I've been playing around with my slightly modified Levent gimmick for a couple days now and I must say it works like a DREAM! Although I've never worked with an actual Palmo before, or even a Dye Tube, I don't think I'll be getting one anytime soon because I'm having plenty of success with Levent's gimmick, it's also nice to know that I will never have to worry about paint chipping since the gimmick is made from plastic.
I must say however that I do agree with what was mentioned earlier about the silks fitting a little tight inside the gimmick, I was very uncomfortable with the way the trick was going in practice and was feeling very discouraged until I discovered Ron Wilson's routine and realized that the trick plays just as strong with out the half-dyed finish (dare I say it plays even stronger since the effect is much more straight forward). Since eliminating the extra silk everything feels much less cumbersome and by using Levent's gimmick I was able to eliminate the problem of having to switch gimmicks, I wonder why Billy and Ron never used a palmo. All in all I am very satisfied with my final result and pleasantly surprised that I was able to turn around a trick I thought I was about to totally give up on. Also in playing around with the trick I came up with a little variation of an Idea from Levent, since I modified his gimmick I had to modify the preparation slightly as well, what I have come up with almost certainly cannot be original to me because it is such a downright simple idea. On Levent's DVD he quotes I believe Dai Vernon as saying, "How do you get into [the trick] and how do you get out of it." So heres a little idea that may help streamline your handling a bit: Before you pre-load your gimmick of choice with Silk B take one corner of Silk A and slide it all the way through the gimmick, not sure if this will work on a standard Dye-Tube but on any open ended gimmicks it should, now load Silk B into the gimmick. The end result should be one gimmick loaded with Silk B "threaded" onto Silk A very near one of the corners. To me this simplifies the beginning of any color changing silk trick since now what you have is a "single unit" meaning that now you only have to focus on grabbing one item from your pocket or case instead of a silk and a gimmick. |
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Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts |
I whole heartily disagree with what you have posted because you do not like the tight feeling.
To sacrafice a humorous climax and just pull a silk out of your pocket for convenience. Personally, I use 2 Palmo gimmicks. I produce the silk magically which give me an opportunity to steal the gimmick. If I do not do that sometimes I remove the a silk from my breast pocket and with the other hand obtain the gimmick from my pocket. Larger action of removing silk covers smaller action of obtaining the gimmick. If you would do some searching on the Café, you will find there is at least 4 or more versions of the simple color changing silk. Ron Wilson, Dai Vernon, Ken Brooke, Bev Taylor, Jack Chanin, to name a few. Most lack a good funny surprising climax and that is what the half dyed silk provides. A funny suprising climax to a wonderful explaination trick. This gives it substance and a logical conclusion. Your 'discovery' set the trick back 30 years, not forward, in my humble opinion. |
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Mac_Stone Inner circle Miami, FL 1420 Posts |
To each his own Wmhegbli, but I think you may have misunderstood a lot of what I wrote.
Firstly I don't think you are familiar with Levent's gimmick or routine so I will explain briefly, it uses only one Palmo style gimmick and three silks and in my opinion things get a little cramped and I feel it showed when I was practicing the trick, in my opinion. The solution that others such as Billy McComb and Ron Wilson came up with was to use two gimmicks but again IN MY OPINION this creates more problems than it solves. Like Levent I prefer to work out of a case and not from my pockets and switching a gimmick in and out would not be ideal so for myself as well as Levent our solution is to use just one gimmick. Believe my I like the half-dyed finish, it's what turned me on to the trick in the first place, but its just not practical for me so as much as it pained me to do so I dropped it but I think I'm still left with an equally as entertaining piece of magic. I am not alone in this opinion either, both Ron Wilson and Martin Lewis perform very funny routines with the color changing silks without the half-dyed finish and I don't think anyone would say those routines lack substance or logic nor would they say that those routines "set the trick back 30 years". And by the way I HAVE done some searching and have studied the routines of Billy McComb and Ron Wilson straight out of their respective books as well as the Martin Lewis routine from his A-1 tape and the Dai Vernon handling off of Revelations and lets not forget the in-depth history Levent provided on his DVD. I have explored many different options and have arrived at something that is ideal for me and I can't imagine why anyone would criticize me for that. Best Wishes, Mac P.S. you did not mention what you thought of my variation of Levent's idea about "threading" the silk onto the loaded gimmick. |
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Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts |
I don't believe I was criticizing, it is just your post left the impression that your solution is better, and in my opinion, it brings it back to just the color changing silk.
I have been doing the Comedy Color Changing Silk for over 50 years, it is one of the very 1st tricks I learned. I always thought it needed something at the end, a perfect routine with a punch finish. I believe the half dyed answers that need. I have tried a number of version for the finale, and the Half Dyed is a solution. I did not comment on your threading because I did not understand what you meant, that is why I posted what I thought were alternatives. As far as working out of a case, in a logical point, why would you carry a hanky that belongs in a pocket, and you did mention you "grabbed one item from your pocket". Anyway, you have your opinion, and I have mine, thanks for another point of view. |
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hugmagic Inner circle 7655 Posts |
And guys...this is what makes a horse race.
For a good two silk routine without the half dyed kicker, look at the Bev Taylor "My face was red routine". As with most things, it all boils down to presentation. Greco from Argentina did a great routine using the invisible hand. Richard
Richard E. Hughes, Hughes Magic Inc., 352 N. Prospect St., Ravenna, OH 44266 (330)296-4023
www.hughesmagic.com email-hugmagic@raex.com Write direct as I will be turning off my PM's. |
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Mac_Stone Inner circle Miami, FL 1420 Posts |
Richard,
Is that published in Bev Taylor's Town House Magic? |
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hugmagic Inner circle 7655 Posts |
Yes. It was also in the old Ledgerman magazine.
Richard
Richard E. Hughes, Hughes Magic Inc., 352 N. Prospect St., Ravenna, OH 44266 (330)296-4023
www.hughesmagic.com email-hugmagic@raex.com Write direct as I will be turning off my PM's. |
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