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Does anyone really think that the number when we finally got a good look around is equal to the number while the inspectors were getting jerked around for years?

The password is: Syria
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley.

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On 2010-11-03 11:39, LobowolfXXX wrote:
Does anyone really think that the number when we finally got a good look around is equal to the number while the inspectors were getting jerked around for years?

The password is: Syria


????
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On 2010-11-03 11:39, LobowolfXXX wrote:
Does anyone really think that the number when we finally got a good look around is equal to the number while the inspectors were getting jerked around for years?

The password is: Syria


????


If I search your house thoroughly for something and don't find it, there are probably 3 main possibilities:
1) It was never there
2) It was dismantled to the point of unrecognizability
3) It was moved somewhere else
"Torture doesn't work" lol
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On 2010-11-03 12:09, gdw wrote:
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On 2010-11-03 11:39, LobowolfXXX wrote:
Does anyone really think that the number when we finally got a good look around is equal to the number while the inspectors were getting jerked around for years?

The password is: Syria


????


If I search your house thoroughly for something and don't find it, there are probably 3 main possibilities:
1) It was never there
2) It was dismantled to the point of unrecognizability
3) It was moved somewhere else


Ah, I see what you are saying. Sorry, I didn't realize you were referring to the number of WMDs for example.
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On 2010-11-03 11:39, LobowolfXXX wrote:
Does anyone really think that the number when we finally got a good look around is equal to the number while the inspectors were getting jerked around for years?

The password is: Syria

Still, the final report of the Iraq Survey Group said movement of WMDs to Syria did not happen.

"U.S. investigators hunting for weapons of mass destruction in Iraq have found no evidence that such material was moved to Syria for safekeeping before the war, according to a final report of the investigation"

Of course, it is still a matter of dispute. People still debate the official Kennedy assassination explanation. And some say 9/11 was an inside job. It is impossible to disprove some theories, to the satisfaction of everyone.
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On 2010-11-03 11:39, LobowolfXXX wrote:
Does anyone really think that the number when we finally got a good look around is equal to the number while the inspectors were getting jerked around for years?

The password is: Syria

Still, the final report of the Iraq Survey Group said movement of WMDs to Syria did not happen.

"U.S. investigators hunting for weapons of mass destruction in Iraq have found no evidence that such material was moved to Syria for safekeeping before the war, according to a final report of the investigation"




Your quotation certainly doesn't illustrate that the conclusion was that it "did not happen." It says, instead, that they did not find evidence of it. Similarly, a jury verdict of "not guilty" doesn't mean that the jury believes that the defendant was innocent. If I can stall the cops at the front door long enough to flush a bag of weed down the toilet, they'll "find no evidence" that it was there, too.

I assume they're referring only to physical evidence; there's certainly testimonial evidence, e.g. General Sada (author of "Saddam's Secrets).
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I'm putting John and the Balducci down for the US and pals should have destroyed Iraq the first time around rather than let them accept terms they didn't intend to fulfill.

Equipment Iraq purchased and was shipped to them was not found. If not found does that mean they did not exist or that they were not found? Is it your belief that some godly power snapped his/her fingers and it vanished? Logic dictates one of two things. Either they were hidden and not found or they were moved to a country with a similar political system that is right next door that isn't going to tell anyone they have any weapons....Syria would be the only logical place.
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Back to another Greg Proops line ''We know Saddam had WMD because we sold them to him!

Actually the real issue [and Tony Blair's downfall] was that what weapons he did
have could'nt reach England or America.

Iraq is going to end up costing 3 Trillion dollars! [according to a Nobel prize winner]
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Iraq is going to end up costing 3 Trillion dollars! [according to a Nobel prize winner]


Obama?
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Marky, Germany sold it to them. I think the general idea is to keep chemical weapons from landing on anyone not just the US and England.
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Obama?


Probably more than 3 trillion, and faster.

Wait, were you asking if he was the one who said the thing about Iraq?
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On 2010-11-03 20:46, Markymark wrote:
Iraq is going to end up costing 3 Trillion dollars! [according to a Nobel prize winner]


Obama?

Actually, it was former chief economist of the World Bank and winner of the Nobel Prize in Economics (which is not really a Nobel Prize, FWIW), Joseph Stiglitz, who estimated in 2008 that total costs of the Iraq War on the US economy will be three trillion dollars in a "moderate scenario". It could be much larger.

Two articles by Bilmes and Stiglitz, for two different audiences:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment......9840.ece

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/con......846.html

WWS (What Wikipedia Says):

According to a Congressional Budget Office (CBO) report published in October 2007, the U.S. wars in Iraq and Afghanistan could cost taxpayers a total of $2.4 trillion dollars by 2017 when counting the huge interest costs because combat is being financed with borrowed money. The CBO estimated that of the $2.4 trillion long-term price tag for the war, about $1.9 trillion of that would be spent on Iraq, or $6,300 per U.S. citizen.[9][10]

Stiglitz, former chief economist of the World Bank and winner of the Nobel Prize in Economics, has stated the total costs of the Iraq War on the US economy will be three trillion dollars in a moderate scenario, and possibly more in the most recent published study, published in March 2008.[11] Stiglitz has stated: "The figure we arrive at is more than $3 trillion. Our calculations are based on conservative assumptions...Needless to say, this number represents the cost only to the United States. It does not reflect the enormous cost to the rest of the world, or to Iraq."[11]
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Yes,Joseph Stiglitz was the man who's name I could not remember.

I suppose it's topical now in that a lot of the people who were for starting expensive wars don't want any stimulus dollars for the economy.

Santa,it was a bit of comedic liscense! Germany was behind the chemical stuff you
are right. But you know it's big business selling arms to questionable regimes.
Then the shock and surprise when they are actually used!
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