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Kameron Messmer
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Lol... I'm working on it still.. when I first posted this, the site was different. now that I have people suggesting things everything is moving around. I didn't even HAVE an "adult" page until yesterday. so it's all placeholder stuff.

The plan is to have 3 different sites.
kids.kameronmessmer.com
adults.kameronmessmer.com
sideshow.kameronmessmer.com

They won't intermingle or lead to another site. I'll have cards for each site with the separate URL.
As far as they know, that's all I do. is whats there. If they ask "do you do kids shows?" or whatever, I'll tell them. Otherwise I am an adult entertainer etc.
When I revamp I'll put up another post so more people can rip me to shreds...lol.
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Kameron good on you for considering everyone's suggestions and staying lighthearted! There is nothing worse than people asking for help on here, especially in regards to websites and then getting defensive when people make suggestions. While you clearly can't (and wouldn't want to) take everyone's feedback on board, it's a good way to make sure there are things you haven't overlooked.
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I have seen worse jugglers, and it does take more talent than most to juggle clubs. Black on black for children is a little bit too drab try a contrasting color shirt. Accesorize, dress with a flair, stand out in the crowd. If you want to go all black wear an opera cape. In short you should look like that your show is worth a lot of money.
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Kameron Messmer
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Thanks fly... I try not to be defensive. I know I don't see things others might...
I get what your saying Al... I don't always dress black on black. just happene to have a lot of footage from the same time. that was my first promo vid. I havent made a new one lately...
still not sure how to "look like that your show is worth a lot of money." besides dressing in the most expensive things I own... lol...
Al Angello
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Kameron
This is the sort of question that you should ask the women folk in your life. I wear what my wife tells me looks good together. I'm doing several Halloween shows, and I'm wearing all black except for an orange tie, suspenders, and a sequened hat band for my top hat. When women start telling you that you look good you have it.
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monstercreations
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Hi Kameron,
Can I ask a question?
Are you a professional magician ?
Ade
Kameron Messmer
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Im not sure what you mean exactly... I'll give you the rundown... My dad has been a magician since he was a kid, started a magic show and I started working/performing since I was 14. I started doing kids shows soon after for the magic shop (we had a party room in the back) So I've been performing paying magic shows for over a decade. I've also done countless birthday parties at peoples houses. Ive done corporate banquets and walk around. I've done bar shows and teen shows and such...
and i;ve been paid... may I ask why? Do I look so unprofessional?
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Quote:
On 2010-10-20 11:34, monstercreations wrote:
Hi Kameron,
Can I ask a question?
Are you a professional magician ?
Ade


I believe that his site makes it quite clear that he is a professional magician. The question at hand is how to strengthen and improve the website - not his act.
Kameron Messmer
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Well, I don't do it full time yet...thats what the website is for. getting more gigs to go full time. I've had nothing but praise for my shows, is there something in my videos that makes me seem unprofessional? As far as my act goes? I can't afford professional promo stuff now and I know enough website and video editing to do SOMETHING myself. I'm willing to take critism though. Keep in mind the small clips doesn't really show all my act... so, how am I unprofessional?
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"Professional" and "full time" are two different things. You're clearly a professional, even if it's part-time right now. I'm defending you.
Kameron Messmer
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I know you are... was more wondering what the other guy meant. Thank you!
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Kameron
I could tell by the response of the children in your video that you know what you are doing (call it full time, or professional).

IMHO
When you sell a childrens magic show you are dealing with almost 100% women, or moms, and presenting a clean cut appearance is essential to impress the moms of this world. I can't tell you how to groom your hair, but I will tell you my story. When I found out that I could make money as a juggler/magician I cut off my pony tail, took off my Levis started wearing dress pants, a tie, suspenders, and top hat, now I'm self employed.

HAVE FUN
Al Angello The Comic Juggler/Magician
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Kameron Messmer
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Lol. my dreads have been popular and have kinda set me apart. People recognize me and I use it as my logo/ I have never really had a problem with anyone thinking I'm scary or grungy. I sometimes keep my hair pulled in a ponytail or under a top hat if I can manage. I guess I'm trying to keep my individuality. Not that you arnt... my new kids site is seperated from the sideshow one, and honestly havent got any shows from my site yet. My dad is a proffessional magician as well and passes shows to me quite often. Hopefully when I'm more established the site will generate more income....
Thanks for the compliments... I like to think I can enterain anyone... I mostly get great responses...

ANyone have any idea why the other guy wondered if I was a proffessional?
doesn't proffesional mean I get paid for my shows?
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Just some photos of you smiling, wearing something with colour, and having more "open" and welcoming body language would work wonders for your kids show promo. I think your dreads can be a great differentiator if used as part of a larger persona/costuming.
Kameron Messmer
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Good ideas... never really think of my tux/costuming... ive always done a button up shirt (not always black) and a tux... I guess I don't really like some of the kid performer costuming... looks too silly or bizarre... I know I know, it's kids, I should look silly... I'll work on that. Im defiantly silly and fun at my kids shows even if I didn't show it on my promo...
Al Angello
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Kameron
At the risk of looking corny, silly, or bizarre to you here is my web address http://www.juggleral.com/ double click photo gallery, and you are welcome to give me your honest opinion of my choice of colors.
Al Angello The Comic Juggler/Magician
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"Footprints on your ceiling are almost gone"
Kameron Messmer
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I can say, it is not MY style... It's not bad, but I don't think I could pull it off. I can say your not corney silly or bizarre... especially compared to some... Even if kids are intimidated by me (one of my last shows a kid sat in front of me and said to her friend..."he's scary") and within about 5 seconds it want away. I can handle kids. I am responsible and polite with adults and silly and on their level when I am with kids... Never had any significant problems...
Bill Hilly
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Al,

Playing flex-Al was fun. If you grab him by the head quick enough you can dance him like a marionette.

But I think this should pay off:


Beano, who couldn't figure out how to put the picture inline.

Click here to view attached image.
Al Angello
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Beano my friend
Those games were meant for children to play with, they were not meant for retired engineers.
Al Angello The Comic Juggler/Magician
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Bill Hilly
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Oh, um, I knew that. I was just testing them for you. You know, to make sure they were working.

Yeah, that's it.
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