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Ken Northridge
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No, the booze flows freely in New Jersey on Election Day. Do you suppose that's how New Jersey ends up with a bunch of unqualified people in office?
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There is no way another state has the nightmare choices we have here in Nevada. At least in California those running were not openly out of their league as they are here.
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What about the guy in Alaska who had his personal bodyguards handcuff and hold a journalist who asked embarrassing questions?

Heard an interview the other night. Bizarre.

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Nice! Handcuffs....
I still don't know what Harry and Sharon stand for here, their commercials just tell ust he evil the other one believes in.
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I had you figured to be a Sharon Angle supporter. I know you supported her primary opponent "chicken Lady".
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On 2010-10-20 12:49, kcg5 wrote:
Ca still has happy hour, went to one the other night.


California ABC will not allow any "special" insurance claims (IE for policy holders who have the serving of booze as a special circumstance) under their license while an establishment has an advertised "happy hour" or "ladies night" running...
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On 2010-10-20 17:56, Magnus Eisengrim wrote:
What about the guy in Alaska who had his personal bodyguards handcuff and hold a journalist who asked embarrassing questions?

Heard an interview the other night. Bizarre.

John


I suspect this sort of behavior will become even more common in the USA...
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Turns out the security guards were active duty military . . .
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Al, I vote for whoever is closest to my position on things, more often than not that is a democrate as long as they are moderate. I didn't support the chicken gal and you can check when you and I discussed this elsewhere that I said Harry was not to be counted out. I will admit I thought the chicken gal would win the primary.

I'll tell you exactly how you can lose my vote, there are three catagories:
1. Being actively against choice. I think that it is a sad situation but I have no desire to tell women what to do. Angle is militantly against choice to extremes that most wouldn't go near.
2. Anti-gay rights. If someone makes that an issue at any level I'm not voting for them.
3. If they are not compassionate toward illegal aliens. There is one thing about having a good policy it is another to try to hurt people.
4. If they are overly religious and talk about it publicly.

In this election I will vote for neither Harry or Angle, neither should be elected (to be honest I'll likely vote to keep Angle out).
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So from your post I gather that you would instantly vote for a candidate who:

- divorces religion (at least Biblical religion) from their political policies
- would allow foreigners who have willfully broken our immigration laws to stay without penalty
- would allow an immoral minority to rewrite our traditional marriage laws through the courts
- would continue to allow unborn children to be killed for any reason

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/07/08......294.html

God help us.

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Carrie- you're turning his negatives into positives. Just because someone is against "A" does not automatically mean they are for "B".

That's one of the reasons why it's sad we only really have two viable political parties in this country- ones that don't necessarily represent anybody's best interests. Public funding of all candidates would help level the playing field and make third party candidates more viable. (And also go a long way towards removing corruption- when you don't need money from special interests to fund your campaign, you stop having to cater to them.) But that's another issue entirely.

(Yes, I'm not addressing your other points; they're old arguments that won't be settled here, certainly not with this thread intact.)
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On 2010-10-20 23:23, MagicSanta wrote:

3. If they are not compassionate toward illegal aliens. There is one thing about having a good policy it is another to try to hurt people.


That's a fine line, and for the most part, the devil is in the details. I will say, though, that as a general rule, things that reward past behavior (including illegal immigration) tend to encourage future behavior.
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On 2010-10-20 17:56, Magnus Eisengrim wrote:
What about the guy in Alaska who had his personal bodyguards handcuff and hold a journalist who asked embarrassing questions?

Heard an interview the other night. Bizarre.

John


How do you charge someone with "trespass" on public property?
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On 2010-10-20 17:56, Magnus Eisengrim wrote:
What about the guy in Alaska who had his personal bodyguards handcuff and hold a journalist who asked embarrassing questions?

Heard an interview the other night. Bizarre.

John


How do you charge someone with "trespass" on public property?


Public property doesn't mean that anyone can be there at any time (another example might be posted hours at a park). At a school in California, for instance, apart from some specifically defined people (students, district officers, employees, etc.), the principal and/or his/her designee and/or security cards can bar people's presence on a variety of bases.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley.

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On 2010-10-21 13:21, LobowolfXXX wrote:
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On 2010-10-21 12:49, ed rhodes wrote:
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On 2010-10-20 17:56, Magnus Eisengrim wrote:
What about the guy in Alaska who had his personal bodyguards handcuff and hold a journalist who asked embarrassing questions?

Heard an interview the other night. Bizarre.

John


How do you charge someone with "trespass" on public property?


Public property doesn't mean that anyone can be there at any time (another example might be posted hours at a park). At a school in California, for instance, apart from some specifically defined people (students, district officers, employees, etc.), the principal and/or his/her designee and/or security cards can bar people's presence on a variety of bases. In short, the public has assigned representatives who are authorized to make decisions about physical presence.
I expect that most people who have children in elementary school are probably glad although those schools are "public," not everyone who is free during the day and has an interest in elementary school children is allowed to walk onto the campus and mingle with them.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley.

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Oops, I quoted instead of edited. Anyway, I don't have children, but if I did, I'd be glad for provisions barring trespassing on school property.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley.

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My compassion I mean to treat them as animals. If a family drags their children here those children should be allowed to attend school and then depart with their families if that comes to pass. If someone comes over and is injured they need medical treatment, they need access to food, they do not need to be driven into caves to hide. I want an intelligent and realistic solution which allows the valuable farm workers in to do their jobs and then allows them to return to Mexico for their crop cycle.

I also do not consider gays to be immoral, they are a component of the human experience and being hostile toward people for being gay is wrong.

as for choice I wish it wouldn't happen and personally have problems with it. BUT I am not living the life these women are and thus they need to decide for themselves. I also do not believe forcing victims of rape or incest to have children to suit YOUR desires.

As for religion I want representatives to represent, not make decisions because of their religious beliefs.
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My compassion I mean to treat them as animals. If a family drags their children here those children should be allowed to attend school and then depart with their families if that comes to pass. If someone comes over and is injured they need medical treatment, they need access to food, they do not need to be driven into caves to hide. I want an intelligent and realistic solution which allows the valuable farm workers in to do their jobs and then allows them to return to Mexico for their crop cycle.

I also do not consider gays to be immoral, they are a component of the human experience and being hostile toward people for being gay is wrong.

as for choice I wish it wouldn't happen and personally have problems with it. BUT I am not living the life these women are and thus they need to decide for themselves. I also do not believe forcing victims of rape or incest to have children to suit YOUR desires.

As for religion I want representatives to represent, not make decisions because of their religious beliefs.


I totally get and respect where you're coming from on the compassion issue. Having said that, I also kind of feel that's like letting a kid keep a bike that his dad stole and gave to him, on the grounds that the kid did nothing wrong.

As for representing, everyone makes choices based on his or her personal moral beliefs, whether they derive from religious or secular morality, and I think everyone's entitled to do so. I imagine there are Café members who would love a country where only atheists got to vote, but I'm not one of them. I can just imagine a legislator abstaining on a vote to make murder illegal because his opposition is rooted in the Ten Commandments.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley.

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From that perspective you are correct Lobo (dang your mind!). I believe that leaving children uneducated really leaves them behind the eight ball and to not allow them education of some sort smacks of the old slavery days when teaching reading and writing to slaves was not done in most cases.

Hey, they can make up their minds anyway they want, but if you stand up and say "My votes will all be bible based" then I'm not going to vote for them. They can pray all they want just don't tell me about it. I believe murder is considered wrong in most cultures, religious or not.
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