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zoneinfinite New user 90 Posts |
Anyone heard of "The 'Out of This World' That Fooled Paul Curry"? IMO it's the best color separation effect. The deck can be shuffled by the spectator or magician can even use a borrowed deck. If presented well, the spectator will absolutely be blown away, and he/she will no doubt believe in ESP and intuition. LOL even P.Curry was amazed.
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Jim Short Regular user 142 Posts |
I do a version of "Out Of This World" that can be done from a shuffled deck. I believe it was first described by U.F. Grant, and there is a description in Eugene Burger's _Mastering the Art of Magic_. It eliminates what are, for me, two major drawbacks of the Curry method:
1. It does not require a set-up 2. The spectator does not have to deal out the whole pack The spectator can also look through the undealt portion of the deck and see that all of the cards are mixed. jim
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Daniel Meadows Veteran user Manchester, UK 392 Posts |
I am not familiar with the U.F. Grant method but I always thought that OOTW was stronger because the whole pack was used. The fewer the cards, the lower the impact, is what I would have thought but the idea of letting the spec see that the rest of the deck is not stacked seems to be a great convincer. I will have to check this out.
Oh, just to add that I might have found where the separation-method, as mentioned by GarrettDN, can be located. I was skimming through Expert Card Technique looking for the Zingone Spread (as mentioned by Lee Asher elsewhere) when I found "Separating the Colours" on page 115. It is a "slop-shuffle" technique that does exactly what the name describes. The deck is held face up and the pack ends with the colours separate but the lower colour is face-up and so requires a half-pass. So just to clarify-it is the "slop-shuffle" but done with a face-up deck and is not a charlier shuffle or part there-of. I was stumped before because all the methods mentioned previously separate the deck secretly, under the guise of a shuffle or finding certain cards, whereas if you were looking at the faces and doing a modified Charlier Shuffle it would look just like it was; that you were separating the deck. The reason I say this is because that is how I would separate the deck if I don't need to do it secretly, either that or just upjog all the blacks and strip them. Well that is my little thing that I have learnt for the day. Isn't it great when you re-discover things that you should have remembered?
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Martin Pulman Inner circle London 3399 Posts |
Barrie Richardson suggests using a stripper pack in OOTW in his book Theatre of the Mind.
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Thomas Wayne Inner circle Alaska 1977 Posts |
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On 2002-04-30 08:07, Neil Cook wrote: Well, of course, you have no way of determining whether or not it was "the "slop-shuffle" but done with a face-up deck and is not a charlier shuffle or part there-of", because you weren't there. Neither was I, so I offered a simple conjecture based on the available information. As for your assertion that "if you were looking at the faces and doing a modified Charlier Shuffle it would look just like it was;" I can only assume that you have a limited grasp of the Charlier shuffle. Done correctly, with the hands held closer together and the faces turned slightly up, away from the audience, it has an appearance VERY similar to simply spreading through the deck, much like a spread cull. As with that technique, it helps if you have a reasonable excuse, such as removing the Aces. This assumes, of course, that the colors are a bit clumpy in the deck; if the colors alternate too evenly (e.g. every other card), then ANY of the above techniques will resemble what they really are - a separation. In any event, there are a number of methods for separating the colors that are superior to the "slop shuffle", Charlier shuffle, OR up-jogging and stripping all the black cards. I use them. Regards, Thomas Wayne PS. Quote:
[...] Isn't it great when you re-discover things that you should have remembered? It's even better when you don't forget them in the first place. TW
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Garrett Nelson Special user 644 Posts |
I should have seen this sooner and clarified. In theory one would in fact notice that they are only seeing one color, but that is hidden for the most part. While "shuffling" only backs are exposed on either side.
By holding the cards at an angle such that their colors can't be seen, no one is the wiser about what is going on. Granted, the cards are sloppy, so the the colors are exposed a litle, but not enough to really attract attention. It might be a different story if one announced, "I will now seperate the colors!" But it is all under cover, "...and he took the deck and shuffled it like this. Then I cut it once and they were all face down." So whatever you would like to call it (IMO it is a varient of the slop), that it what it is. As a bonus, it is kind of an effect on its own. |
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freaksrock62 New user 70 Posts |
Harry Loraynes seems to work the best for me. All though if you can master the art of culling in a clever manner, I bet there are limitless ways to achieve separation.
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Adam V Special user 603 Posts |
Lennart Green's OOTW effect is great. Fooled a room full of us. Maybe not as great as other methods for spectators, but will get past magicians.
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Nathan Pain Inner circle iowa 2825 Posts |
my way is to take a brand new deck, riffle shuffle it once, and/or faro the cards...either method will automatically separate the colors, then you can do a completely face down impromptu ootw...
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