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Reflections on my vacation in America, part 1:

I hated, and I mean really HATED, the Nightmare Before Christmas overlay at the Haunted Mansion.

Now, I suppose that I can respect that some people are enthusiastic about Tim Burton's work. I'm not.

I also suppose that I can respect that some people are enthusiastic about the overlay.

But consider this: some of my earliest memories are of Disneyland. We lived nearby, and back in the day it was cheap if you didn't buy a bunch of E tickets. But I last visited Disneyland in 1981. I live abroad--I can't visit Disneyland five or six times a year like So-Cal residents.

For me there is a very strong nostalgic pull to the Disneyland of my early childhood. It was important for me to show Disneyland to my son. And what I wanted to show him most was: The Haunted Mansion.

It was always my favorite ride, just above Pirates.

So I get there, with my son, on a trip that cost me thousands of dollars, and the Haunted Mansion is not there.

You cannot imagine my disappointment. While my visit was not ruined, it was definitely damaged. How can Disney take one of the most popular rides in the history of theme parks and just replace it with something else--something I personally find highly inferior, though I realize many people love it--for a few months out of the year? Why not just two weeks or so? And why not warn poor souls like me in advance?

I probably will never visit the Anaheim Disneyland ever again.

The rest of my trip was very positive. But the Haunted Mansion was a nightmare.
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Yeah the haunted mansion sucks right now.

DUDE, you were in my neck of the woods and didn't tell me.
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Should have gone to Las Vegas, that’s a ghost town now. Smile
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Dear stoneunhinged,

Boy do I agree with you about Tim Burton. He may well be a genius but he's a twisted genius. It's too bad that Johnny Depp's career has been so dominated by collaborations with Burton and too bad that Burton has probably twisted another generation to come.

Sorry your trip was not what you had hoped. I hope you had some fun with your son.

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I took my kids to Disney world 30 years ago, and next year we are taking our grand daughter there. We are going to visit all the princesses, and I will keep my big synical mouth shut.

You didn't see a Lakers game either.
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Brett, you should have known from FB that I was going to be in the area. Truth be told, I actually had in mind a surprise visit to the Freakshow, but we were simply too tired to make the drive out to Venice.

Tommy, Vegas was popping while we were there. No sign of a recession.

Mary, the trip was everything I had hoped for. Everything went like clockwork: Tombstone, Carlsbad Caverns, Grand Canyon, Hoover Dam, Vegas, Lakers game, and Disneyland. ONLY the Haunted Mansion was a disappointment.

Al, we DID see a lakers game. LA vs. the Denver Nuggets on Saturday, 16 October.
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Being a huge fan of Burton's work and a big Nightmare fan I love the NMBC overlay. I had always wanted to see it and was going to be in Anaheim in late September and was worried I'd get there only to discover that it hadn't been set up yet. But it was and the wife ad I went on it four times. We later found out that they had decided not to do it that year and had shipped off everything to Japan to convert their ride. But the public outcry was so great that they had to remake everything for the ride. So that year (it was 2005) everything was brand new.
If you don't like Burton or NMBC you'd best stay away from all the Parks this time of year as many of them convert their Haunted Mansion ride to the nightmare theme.
Sorry it ruined your trip. But far more peoples would have been ruined had it not been setup as thousands flock to Disneyland this time of year to see it. Which is why they do it. Capitalism again wins out Smile
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My neck of the woods, too! I've lived in Anaheim twice, and I used to own the Anaheim Bridge Club.
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Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley.

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On 2010-10-24 11:23, Payne wrote:
Capitalism again wins out Smile


I was fascinated by the amount of STUFF people were wearing with the Nightmare motif. That's why I was aware how incredibly popular it is.

As I said, I have no problem with people loving it. My problem is that people like me who can only get there once a decade have to do without the ORIGINAL Haunted Mansion unless they can plan their schedules accordingly. Which I--living in another country with another vacation schedule--cannot do.

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What puzzles me is why the NMBC stuff is always trotted out at Halloween, when the movie is not even about Halloween, per se...

Seems to me it should come out around Christmas time, but whatever!

Interesting that it should have such a lasting influence, when it dis so poorly at the theaters when it first came out.
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And Lobo--it might have been your neck of the woods, but you never made a gesture towards meeting the Unhinged One. I made it clear I was going to Disneyland.

Too bad, because my vegetarian son could have used a real MEAL.
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Would your vegetarian son  have liked the blood and guts of, The House of Horror?

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The picture of Dr. Unhinged going down a Disneyland ride is priceless. It could take the internet by storm.
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On 2010-10-24 13:58, gaddy wrote:

Interesting that it should have such a lasting influence, when it dis so poorly at the theaters when it first came out.



Yes, but it more than made up for it when it was released on video. Rocky Horror too bombed in its initial theatrical release but eventually became one of the top grossing midnight movies of all time and garnered devoted fans all over the world.
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I'm sad I missed the Nightmare Before Christmas overlay, because I've never seen it. I've seen the regular Haunted Mansion a few times, and was just in Disneyland two or three weeks ago... but the line was too long, and the toddler was napping, so the best I could do was get my picture taken in front of the mansion. Oh well, we'll go back eventually, when the kid's older.
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We stop motion people love NMBC. I can understand your being upset, but I can't expect the people who live in the house I grew up in to leave it as it was 30 years ago just because I might want to come by and show the young family members the ancestral manor. Like any older person I am sad when something I remember is different, but that's time for you. When I was at Minto armoury for the Cameron centennial celebrations, there were changes from my years there. There are washrooms for women now!
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Fun fact... Johnny Thompson has worked with Disney on the Haunted Mansion.
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"Down and Out In The Magic Kingdom" by Cory Doctorow is a book I highly recommend to anyone who is find of science fiction and Disneyland....

A lot of the major action takes place in the Haunted Manson in the far future, where Disney is a sort of cultural heritage site.

Check it out!
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Nightmare is one of the few Tim Burton movies I like all the way through. The first "Pee Wee" is another. Oh, and Sweeney Todd, of course.
I like Beetlejuice right up until the end.
How come so many of his "happy endings" are just the goth kid putting on normal people clothes?
Irritates the crap out of me. As if your wardrobe defines you. "I'm happy now, better throw out these fishnets..."
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I haven't seen the overlay, but I want to.
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Ain't life unkind?"
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