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Ron Reid Inner circle Phoenix, Arizona 2732 Posts |
I just received Chris Capehart's DVD on the linking rings and it is wonderful! VERY different from Cellini's, and I think I like it better.
While Cellini's is just plain beautiful and poetic, Chris' is more loud and dynamic. His crash link (which he calls the impossible link) and unlink truely look like real magic - metal going through metal. I bought his stars of magic pamphlet years ago, and never understood his crash unlink. Now I do. I'm so glad it's on DVD! Also, I like the fact that the routine is angle-proof. Spectators can be behind you, underneath you, one foot away, and the rings will still fry them. In case you haven't guessed, I love this routine. I believe it's only available from Denny and Lee. Ron Reid |
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Kozmo V.I.P. 5473 Posts |
I think rings only fry magicians. I don't know if I have ever seen a ring routine that plays huge for a lay audience, and I think that silence makes it better. I have seen all the thousands of 3 and 4 and 5 and 6 ring routines and I hate them. Now understand, I'm not saying anything about Chris Capehart's routine...its probably better than Cellini's if you say so.
I beleive you! but as beautiful as Cellini's routine is, I don't think it would play big for a lay audience. To them it would look like another ring routine except not as noisy. I will check out this routine on your words because if it's better than Cellini's, that's saying something.. koz |
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Pete Biro 1933 - 2018 18558 Posts |
Man, I don't know where you see magic... but... I never work without the rings, and it gets the most comments and reactions of anything I do...
Ever see Whit Haydn do the rings? Richard Ross? Michael Skinner. Jay Marshall? Slydini? Topper Martyn? Me? (sorry to mention so many deceased performers, but they were incredible with the rings). And now the close up versions with Shoot Ogawa? C'mon... the rings are one of the greatest effects and most astonishing and entertaining of all time.
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JamesinLA Inner circle Los Angeles 3400 Posts |
I have to say, I'm with Pete on this one.
I get great reactions from the rings. Actually, it's what they seem to remember and ask me about more than cups and balls. It sticks with them and haunts them. I have the Capehart pamphlet. Some of his moves are also on McBride's first stage dvd of the 3 dvd set. I really like Capeharts impossible link. Jim
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Peter Marucci Inner circle 5389 Posts |
Gotta agree with Koz on this; personally, I can't stand the rings.
What are they supposed to be and what's the magician's motivaltion for linking them? After the magician has linked one or two, the audience gets the idea; he doesn't have to link eight! Pete Biro refers to Jay Marshall; I'll refer to Jay's biggest reaction with the rings, at a convention show where about three other performers had all done the rings and Jay came out holding a set of rings. No words. He looked at the audience, looked at the rings, and tossed the rings offstage. Brought down the house! All that said, I have seen Chris' crash link, at a distance of about six inches, and I have never seen anything so magical in my life (and that's a LONG time!). He is, in a word, superb! |
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R2 Special user 935 Posts |
Chris is a very, very, good friend of Marc De Souza and I suspect they spent many moments with Da' Rings and Marc's influence is very evident throughout....
Chris has a very down to earth sense of humour as well.....I hate to use this word to describe him but, I shall..."Refreshing" and "Witty".~rr |
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Kaliix Inner circle Connecticut 1984 Posts |
I remember seeing Chris do his linking rings routine at a convention two years ago. His routine was probably the first ring routine that made me go, "Wow! Now that's what a ring routine should be like!"
Chris's style is fast and energetic. The routine was fairly short and very magical. If you have seen him do the crash link and unlink, you would know what everyone has said. Those moves are just magical as he11. I bought his rings and routine from him, but I was never able to understand the crash link from the text. I hurt my hands too many times trying to duplicate it. I'm tempted to buy the DVD to see the link explained visually. Ron, does he explain it well on the DVD?
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JamesinLA Inner circle Los Angeles 3400 Posts |
I haven't seen the dvd (how much is it by the way?) but the impossible link wasn't too hard for me to pick up for some lucky reason. The trick to it--in my experience--is to drop the two, already linked rings in the right hand downward while keeping the single ring in the left hand about at the same altitude and position. That keeps the already linked ring from falling off as the other comes on. And make sure the key is in the heel linked position in the right hand.
Jim
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Kozmo V.I.P. 5473 Posts |
Well, I love to get it going. To me the rings are not magic, eyes of the beholders. Not to say that in the right hands they could be. Cellini's ring routine is magic and I'm sure that Capehart's ring routine is also and I likely will check it out. But man!I hate the rings, hate them, noisy. And whats the point after the first link and unlink.
that's me though. Me. Everyone has their own ideas. so this brings me to something that might make for an interesting conversation, I used to do Gary Kurtz's Flourious. For you who have not seen it, it's a jumbo coin flourish. I USED to do it. It's killer. Gary is unbeleivable, truly, but how many times can you vanish and produce a coin without it being an education. So you feel that the lay audience can't get a clue to the fact that there's a key in those rings? Or man, he's just palming that coin? I do a little bit of the jumbo flourish now. And less and less all the time. vanish it once and its magic. vanish it 12 times and its showing off! |
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Ron Reid Inner circle Phoenix, Arizona 2732 Posts |
Kaliix: Yes, the impossible (crash) link is explained very well - this is the first time I've seen Chris and he is an excellent communicator. In fact, I did not understand one of the moves from the pamphlet, but it is Crystal clear on the DVD.
James: the DVD is $25.00 from Denny (free shipping). One thing that's interesting - I spent a small fortune on the Owen 12 inch set of rings, and it seems like Chris' moves almost depend on a cheaper, thinner gauge set where there's more give to metal. Ted: FYI...if given the chance to see a ring routine for shear pleasure, I would have to pick Cellini's over anyone's, but the reason I think I may like Chris' better (for me) is because of the angle-proof-ness of it. For a master such as Cellini, his routine is no problem on the streets, but as someone just venturing into street performing, I like the idea of not having to worry about angles, audience distance, etc. Ron Reid |
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Kozmo V.I.P. 5473 Posts |
well guys, I will like, I said check out the routine and I beleive that someone out there likely does a better ring routine than Cellini. but it's gonna have to be pretty good! because Cellini's is beautiful and Capehart's being angle proof is very important. in addition, I have never seen Cellini do his ring routine on the streets!!!
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JamesinLA Inner circle Los Angeles 3400 Posts |
Ron,
Per the angles on the street, the only move that would worry me is the dropping unlink, whatever that's called. Especially depending on the size of your key. That's why I've never done it on the street before. But I am going to try it now that I know that Capehart does that move on the street. It's a very magical unlink. Kozmo, Is Cellini's ring routine on one of the upcoming tapes? BTW, what's the latest ETA update on the two new Cellini dvds? Thanks. Jim
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Adam V Special user 603 Posts |
I agree with Koz here too. Ring routines put me to sleep, and audiences I've sat with during ring routines have felt the same.
However as Pete Biro mentioned Whit Haydn has a fantastic ring routine. It makes total sense and is extremely funny. I use it to close all of my kids shows and they always come up to me and tell me that they liked the ring trick the best. It's funny, if you performed an ace assembly without some sort of patter people would tell you off for it. They'd say you need something to help the magic. However with a ring routine it's perfectly acceptable to simpl get up there and do the moves.
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Kozmo V.I.P. 5473 Posts |
Cellini has a video out...$25...the full routine is performed and explained. buy it!!! $25 It's a killer and the production qualities, I might add, very good.
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BroDavid Inner circle America’s North Coast, Ohio 3176 Posts |
I saw Chris Lecture earlier this year at the Battle of the Magicians in Canton, Ohio, and I bought the DVD immediately! (You may also be able to get it directly at http://www.chriscapehart.com)
I also own Cellini’s Lord and Master of the Rings, and it is Excellent! I love it. It is poetic, graceful, and downright right elegant. But I could never really get an audience charged up with it. I have no doubt that Cellini can. But I am no Cellini.... It was just too passive for my ADD upbeat performing attitude. I want to grab them. Not wait for them to get old and catch them when they fall... With the Capehart routine (actually my own variation of it) I can draw a crowd on an empty street with this routine! (OK, maybe not totally empty....I don't intentionally lie! But it is amazing.) but when you LINK right in their faces, and unlink, and are linking and unlinking and moving back and forth in the crowd, you can involve a lot of people, and the crowd just keeps growing. It is almost "Gazzo aggressive” in that you are calling them out, showing them where to look and they can only see the amazing final result. You tell them what you are going to do. You tell them that it is impossible. You get them to agree that it is impossible, and then wham - you link it. And leaven them shaking their heads, and you push off to get someone else involved. I was going to use this routine for my closer at the Flea Market, but so far rain most Saturdays, and now a case of pneumonia has kept me from it. So before the pneumonia, I would just walk around occasionally with three rings, and anywhere I stop, I can draw 25-50 people. Don't underestimate the impact of Chris Capehart’s three ring routine. BroDavid
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JamesinLA Inner circle Los Angeles 3400 Posts |
Adam,
Did I miss something? You said the rings puts people to sleep and then you said when you perform it it's the one trick everyone says was their favorite? BTW, that is my experience too, as I said above. Everyone tells me that was their favorite. BroDavid, Hope you feel better ASAP. Back to your number ADD self. Jim
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Adam V Special user 603 Posts |
I meant that most typical ring routines put me to sleep. Whit Haydn's routine is superb though because it's most than simply doing moves which most routines seem to be.
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Pete Biro 1933 - 2018 18558 Posts |
FYI, Whit and I were both on the same show... and we both do the rings. We discussed one of us NOT doing it, and I, as MC (the MC should ALWAYS BOW to the act) said I would leave the rings out... then Whit said, "You know, why don't you do your routine anyway... it is different than mine, lets see what happens."
So... we both did the rings and, THANKFULLY, we both killed, getting very, very strong reactions from the audience. I used to do a satirical ring routine, and was booked on the same show with Dai Vernon, who, naturally, was doing the rings. I asked The Professor what I should do, leave them out and add something, if so, what should I add? He said, NO NO don't leave the rings out... you follow me, satire always goes over better after the serious... Same result, both got solid ovations from the audience. Also... I have seen messages all over the place, like, "The Egg Bag is no good" "The Linking Rings are no good" -- If they are that bad, how come so many pros use them and they have been with us forever?
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Adam V Special user 603 Posts |
Did you know that venues during Vaudeville used to put up signs saying "No egg bags"?
I'm not making a point, I just think that's cool.
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Kozmo V.I.P. 5473 Posts |
I hate the rings...but love Cellini's...I agree Pete.
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