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On 2010-12-10 23:11, tacrowl wrote:
Bill's version of the event is posted somewhere in the archives of WorldVents. If you are really curious, that is the place to look.


Curious? Slightly, but not enough to go hunting for it. Maybe now Nelson will write a book too and I can read about it when that comes out.
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To me the most important portion of the whole episode of the Jeff/Walter situation, is that from stories published from all sides even though there may have been a perceived indiscretion at one time, apologies were given and accepted by the parties involved. Now the important thing is that even if Jeff made a mistake as a young man, look at what he has accomplished. Not just for his own bank account, but I might add, for the bank accounts of most of the rest of us as well. Ventriloquism was once thought of as a fading art form and that is not the case today.

Lets all focus on what is good for the industry and for each other and make good entertainment for the audiences.

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Excellent point!

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All interesting discussions, above, and likely deserves a thread by themselves.

Let's try to return this thread to its original purpose...

if you have read the recent book by Jeff Dunham, or have questions about it, please post your comments and questions here (thought this thread seems best placed in the Book review section of the Café).

...I am still in the thick of reading Jeff's book (I'm am a SLOW reader).

And I continue to enjoy it thoroughly.

I find Jeff's narrative voice to be so strong and so friendly --unpretentious. And the stories he tell about how he enjoyed in his performing career and how he developed his characters, are (for me) fascinating.

I will have the good fortune to see Jeff perform live tonight at Montreal's Bell Center and look forward to this experience very much...

Hmmm... now I'm going off topic! Smile

...If you have more comments and questions about Jeff's book, All By My Selves, please post them here. Smile

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I don't think this thread really went off topic as the discussions came out of something from Jeff's book, which is a good thing, books should spark discussion, otherwise you've got a thread filled with, "The book was good. Thank you. Bye"
I'm also glad it wasn't in the book review section, I never would have seen it as I don't go to any other part of the Café. It was in this forum that I found out the book existed!
Anyway, my copy is on the way to me from somewhere (got it from Amazon, so who knows where it's coming from).
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I finished reading "All By My Selves" last night. It was good. I don't have it in the "I couldn't put it down category", but it was a light, entertaining, interesting reading and I did enjoy it.
I didn't mind the little quips with the figures here and there as some did. I give him credit when talking about his divorce, he didn't use his book to grind an axe.
There were naturally a few stories that stood out that got me laughing, which I won't mention so as not to spoil it for anyone who hasn't read it yet.
One thing that stood out to me, is that every time he reached some new level, met someone famous, it was Always with a reaction of "Really? How did this happen? How did I get here?" - got to love someone being able to maintain that type of reaction even after all his successes.
Anyway, good book, I'm sure most will find it very enjoyable.
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I too am a friend of Bill Nelson's and I can agree with Bob that the stories are different. But.... Mr Horowitz was not the first grumpy old man to appear!! Could Bill have possibly copied as well?? Listed on Ventriloquist Central Marketplace is Mr. Crabbe which was carved by Bob Isaacson quite a number of years before Bill's Mr Horowitz. I really don't think Bill copied anything. Just throwing out the fact that nothing is new or original. Just redone or remade. Here is the link so that you can see Mr Crabbe.
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I enjoyed the book quite a bit. I related to Jeff's story, perhaps more so because I'm a Texas kid myself, and about his age too. One thing that really impressed me though, and I think it says a lot about why Jeff has gone so far, no matter what he achieved, good money doing corporate, success as a headliner in comedy clubs, multiple appearances on Carson, he kept saying 'ok, what's next, how can I take this further?' After achieving what many of us would have considered the top of what a vent can achieve, he kept on striving for more.
Also, Blueshawk, I also admire how he chose not to make his ex look bad. I believe the guy actually aims for the high road as much as he possibly can.
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I just purchased the audio book and really enjoy it. It is 8+ hours long and read by Jeff (although it doesn't sound like he is reading most of the time). In the audio book, Jeff comes across as very down to earth, has a conversational, self deprecating and entertaining delivery style and his charterers are always butting in to interrupt his story. I have found myself laughing out loud numerous times. Overall, it is highly entertaining, insightful as well as educational. I highly recommend it!
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BTW - Jeff tapes his next DVD in Richmond, VA. June 3 & 4 from what I hear.
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I gotta buy me Jeff's book:o) My birthday and Christmas are too far off to wait although "Father's Day" isn't too far off:o)
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I bought Jeffs book last year. Read the first two chapters and stupidly left it at our summer cabin. Going back in May. Just could not bring myself to purchase a second copy for a reason that weak.

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I bought a copy... l already checked out the pictures... and will start reading tonight Smile
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My copy is waiting for me at my local library. Will pick it up tonight or tomorrow.
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I started the book last night. After reading a few pages, I can see that this will be a fun read.

It might become a stage for a small puppet during this summer's reading programs.

In the past, I have used Ventriloquism for Dummies. (the book)

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I am almost done.

I liked his sharing the good the bad and the ugly of the comedy biz.
The mental things that go on in our brains while we are onstage and inbetween gigs were an interesting read. As was said above, don't want to give away the enjoyment of reading it "yourselves".


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I finished reading it a few weeks ago (LONG waiting list at library!). I honestly can't grasp any "controversy" about Walter. To me, it would be just making his own version of an idea. I get the impression he didn't make an exact copy of the "Mr. Horowitz" figure, but but added a few touches of his own, including looking in a mirror with a big frown!
But then I have not been in vent circles other than forums either.
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