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This may not be the correct forum, but since Scorpion is somewhat of a mental effect, I'm trying here. I recently purchased one from a Café member and it's an awesome prop. However, the thing is really pretty dangerous if used incoorectly. Im just wondering, given the nature of the effect, those of you with Scorpion, in which venues to you perform this? I'd be afraid to let a spectator even handle it because of the powerful gimmick and what the spectator may be wearing. I'm sure tweens and teens would go for this, but it does have a bit of a violent nature. I'm mostly curious for your thoughts on this, pardon the pun. Thanks! Bob
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It is the one thing they put out that I take with me (in reserve).

Can it be dangerous if used incorrectly, yes! So can a letter opener, can of tuna, or a Q-Tip. Use it correctly. It isn't a "slap" effect, but rather a "squeeze" effect, so even if you got it wrong, there would be no real injury.

As for their examining it, I have them wear the Oven Mitt of Protection when they touch it.

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Hmmm...what exactly are you doing with a Q-tip, Tony, that is making it so dangerous?
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Do you really want to know? I know 27 ways to kill with a Q-Tip...
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I hear Tony can slay people with a pendulum ALONE!

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Thanks for the info Tony, your suggestion of the oven mitt is a good one...and for Mr. Mindbender, just for the record I had an ear specialist tell me once, "never put anyting in your ear larger smaller than your elbow..." q-tips have probably punctured more eardrums than anything else!
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The mitt pretty much ensures the item will not come in contact with anything that can be damaged as well. It essentially ensures that it will be kept at arms length. Smile

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Tony, I may have misunderstood the oven mitt. You mention the Oven Mitt of Protection...is that a gimmicked mitt? Or just an ordinary oven mitt? If it's a gimmicked mitt, might you PM me with the details? Thanks! Bob
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Standard oven mitt. It prevents them from contacting the points. When they see the dangerous looking thing, they will only want to touch it with the mitt on. Believe me!

I originally used a work glove, but mitt is easier for them to put on, and lightens things up a bit without removing the element of danger.

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I hold it and just let them lightly touch the tip with their fingertips and then ask them what would happen if they were to squeeze it...

After that it's on to the rest of the routine.
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Thanks folks, y'all have helped a lot.....gonna steal one of my wife's oven mitts pronto! Best, Bob
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My wife's only got one oven mitt left after I stole the other for my linking barbed wire rings.


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Sometimes I pop a balloon on it to prove that it is sharp.

How exactly would one not allow a spec to touch it and still do the routine?

The oven mitt is a good idea, but I just tell them to be very careful.

This is great to perform for men, especially young men. Women get a little freaked out...especially my wife!

I actually think this one looks more dangerous than it is...not that I want to miss, but better to miss on the scorp than a nail or knife!
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Cicero, I thought of the balloon too and I like that as well....but if you let the spec touch it, how do you know that he/she doesn't have something in close proximity that would compromise the gimmick or give it away? That's my biggest fear...impaling someone with it if they're wearing the wrong material! (if y'all get my gist....)
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On 2010-11-19 21:32, Bob1Dog wrote:
Cicero, I thought of the balloon too and I like that as well....but if you let the spec touch it, how do you know that he/she doesn't have something in close proximity that would compromise the gimmick or give it away? That's my biggest fear...impaling someone with it if they're wearing the wrong material! (if y'all get my gist....)

Hi Guys. Thanks Tony for sharing the subtleties you use.

You cannot be impaled by the Scorpion Smile The spikes are less than 1 inch long and have a "bed of nails" effect due to the close proximity of the tiny spikes.

I can actually toss it from hand to hand, I can squeeze my hand down on the ball to some extent.

I have several customers that have painted a thick piece of bolsa wood and then drop the scorpoin on it to show it sticks in the wood.

I have seen a wonderful presentation where the performer shreds newspaper with it to show the "danger" element.

I actually use wood tongs similar to the ones in the demo video and let the spec use the wood tongs too.

If you are that concerned my friend it might not be something that is right for you.

Thank you for inquiring Smile

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Rick, I am not that concerned; I'm completely enamored with the Scorpion, but before I use it, I want learn how others use it as well. I was attempting some lame comedy on my "impaled" statement.....You gave me two more great ideas; the thick piece of balsa wood is a wonderful presentation, as are the tongs. So once again, thanks all for your comments. Best, Bob
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Question: can anyone provide photographic evidence of makibishi or caltreps that in any way resemble the use of this prop? I like the theme but in my research I have found nothing to support this being an accurately represented prop. Please post links as I would love to be convinced.

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On 2011-01-10 20:42, Julian Kestrel wrote:
Question: can anyone provide photographic evidence of makibishi or caltreps that in any way resemble the use of this prop?


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I've used Scorpion off and on in my show for a few years now, more off than on the past year. I really like Outlaw and their effects


I place the scorpion in a spectators hand (center of the palm) AFTER I have them fully spread out their hand, I control the placement and during the stretch of the hand I can see if there is any reason I should NOT place the scorpion in their hand. Also I explain the properties are like a bed of nails, if the weight is distributed in the hand it is less likely to puncture them (basically taking control, adding more danger while telling them be careful and do it like I'm asking or they could be hurt without ever saying those words)


Also I am telling the story of the makibishi and building the danger into it prior to the placement so there is a good respect for the scorpion and it's understood this is a (potentially) dangerous weapon
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