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Don't do it Dean!!!
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On 2010-12-01 19:07, Lou Hilario wrote:
It says a 6feet 2 inches guy can fit in. Wow, this must be a large one and not deceptive at all.


I think I am 6 foot 2 also (1.88m) and I fit into the wicker basket that Peter Diamond (UK) made - it is extremely deceptive and one of the smallest baskets I have seen (I have a picture somewhere).
A fellow magician however who is 1.74m cannot even fit half way into the same basket - he is not big, but simply not agile enough to fit into the opening. It was a funny picture to see him running around with the basket stuck to his rear end!!

The question I have with Andrew's "basket" is the durability of the material used - I am familiar with Coroplast and the slightest bend or nick leaves an irreversible visible "crack" (white line) despite the original colour of the material. The flaps where the swords poke out will take a battering for sure, so I would be curious of the life span of this "basket".

As far as looks go, this looks modern and suited to a night club atmosphere performed by a young magician. I guess black makes it look smaller than it actually is? I prefer the look of this to some of the fibre glass or other "non-wicker" versions out there, but for me a basket is a basket is a basket, and the simplicity of the original wicker cannot be beaten.
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Lee, you should make a color changing basket... Haha.
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Aren't there plans for the basket somewhere?

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I got an e-mail from Andrew today that said this would go up to 299 in three days...
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My 2 cents:

As with the victory: Many of these ideas came about the need to reach the young-no wallet performer for a backyard show.
Ideas that as pointed out could be fabricated with more resistance. Performance value? Well, use your good sense. "YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR"
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On 2010-12-07 01:16, donrodrigo wrote:
My 2 cents:

As with the victory: Many of these ideas came about the need to reach the young-no wallet performer for a backyard show.
Ideas that as pointed out could be fabricated with more resistance. Performance value? Well, use your good sense. "YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR"


I agree with you, You get what you pay for.
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Hey, I just got this in. I have not assembled it, but I took everything out of the box just to make sure it was in good condition - and it was.

It comes with a DVD I have not watched, and probably won't until after Christmas - just won't have time. But here are the first impressions of what I got.

The coroplast is more heavy duty than I have ever seen - that's not saying a lot, I've seen a minimal amount of coroplast. Or maybe I just can't tell the difference. It is precut and folded, and has velcro already on it - I know someone said above it'd work better with velcro, so, now you know, it has velcro.

The swords are machined blades (not sharp) and seperate PVC handles covered in a nice red tape. The blades are held in the handles by two screws. The blades are not the same length, and two have small marks on the bottom, so I guess this is with a reason.

There are not the lace-up holes on the illusion like in the pictures, but it does come with the red string - I guess this is optional. I'll do it 'cause I like the way it looks - and because we have a red bryce's screen we'll use with this, so they'll match.

All and all, I think I'm gonna be really happy with it. I don't know if it'd be strong enough to withstand the rigors of someone touring with it year round, but we do 10-12 illusion shows a year, so I think it'll be perfect for us.

Also, for those wanting plans, you can look at this and make one from a different material no problem.

Once I have mine together and ready (which'll be after Christmas, maybe New Years) I'll give a more solid review.

They're still available from his website for $299
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Okay, so I just assembled mine for fun. Threw it together quick, worked like a charm. If you're performing it though you'd wanna take a little time to line it up correctly. Entire illusion sets up in probably 2-3 minutes.
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On 2010-12-06 18:51, JamesinLA wrote:
Aren't there plans for the basket somewhere?

Jim


There are plans to one that looks very similar in Jim Sommers, Build Your Own Illusions.
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On 2010-12-14 09:10, M Sini wrote:
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On 2010-12-06 18:51, JamesinLA wrote:
Aren't there plans for the basket somewhere?

Jim


There are plans to one that looks very similar in Jim Sommers, Build Your Own

Illusions.
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The one in Jim's book is cloth holding it's shape with a metal suports on the inside ( like the one on Tony Hassini VSH tape). the one Andrerw has is more close to the Ralph Adams' basket (page 50 of his book).
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I think the design looks like the Ralph Adams Sword Basket, same shape and angles.

This is a nice by for only $200.00. I think if anyone is really worried about it falling apart, it could always be lined with fiberglas material on the inside.

Will the material take paint, it would be nice to make it look more like a basket.
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Wmhegbli, I'm not sure if it will or not - it certainly doesn't "feel" like it would, but I could be wrong.
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What no one has brought up what the #%^(*!#$ is it supposed to be.
To a magician it looks like a "Sword Basket"
but an audience (not sharing our inside view) does not know that!

It is a very, very foreign looking object to a Muggle normal person.
Neither fish nor fowl, it does not look like a "basket" maybe an alien space ship?
This is a danger in illusions, if it looks too strange it screams "trick"
and they spectators therefore look for a "method"
rather than looking at it as a magical experience.

I had the Sommers model custom made years ago,
it looks like what I say it is:
A Barbary Coast Chinatown Hamper used for Shanghai and white trade.
IF one can come up with a plausible theme and justification this could work.
But, right now it just looks like another "magician's trick box"
And being small and cheap looking does not have the impressive cache of say a
Modern Art, which is supposed to be something: Modern Art!

Taking all that into consideration before you buy this.
Coroplast is about 25% more sturdy than corrugated cardboard,
with any travel or much use, it's going to age and go south pretty quickly.

Nice concept, practical no, and not an "ordinary object" which the real basket is,
perhaps from India or Pier One, but realistic looking just the same.

My thoughts on this anyway, funny it has not been brought up until now.
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Unless you've had it fluorinated, even those plastic paints won't bond well to run-of-the-mill coroplast. Some solvent based plastisol inks (think silk screen inks) will work, but (I think) must be cured with UV light.

If the surface is cleaned well, self adhesives work pretty good on coroplast. Woodgrain-patterned ConTact Paper cut into narrow strips might help suggest a wicker basket.

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Wmhegbli. with regards to it taking paint, it probably wouldn't. However you could use sign makers vinyl or Fablon or anything like that to cover it. Vinyl is pretty tough too so will withstand scratches etc. It can also be digitally cut to any design and applied pretty easily.

Regarding plans, I just emailed Andrew. He said there's none available at the moment but in the near future...

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Ummmmmmmm. basket looks pretty 'shoddy'... barely resembles a basket. The material appears to be what you can get at a sign supply shop, it's a corrugated plastic... a 4x8' sheet runs about $12.00. You do the math, make one yourself. Swords looks like a child's toy. Not very 'threatening'. I'd pass on this "illusion".

I just sold my real sword basket a couple weeks ago,. Real woven stuff. See Ron Alesi if you want it. I think he might still have it. Custom made swords go with it too.
http://www.ronallesimagic.com/magic.php?page=page11
Magically,

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Crochow, I have it, and can assure you it is not shoddy. And it looks like a black basket in person.
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Its a $200 illusion. Packs small and plays big. What more can you want.
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I had sent Andrew Mayne an email when I was in Iraq about an event we were putting on and I needed an easy to build prop. He sent me what I was asking for, as well as extra illusion plans free of charge...just in case one didn't work out! Talk about a nice guy!
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