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Pete Biro
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Minutes after I asked about the CASS Video, one came in the mail as a gift from a friend.

I met Phil at FISM. He is a charming guy and a strong performer (Sheets introduced us) and as Whit says, the routine is "all Phil" and it is hard to imagine many that could pull it off.

No question it is one of the best "presentations" I have seen on the scam and how he NAILS the spectator is a lesson in psychology one could learn much from.

There is another very entertaining shell game-type of effect that I used for years (might have to bring it back into my repertoire) and that is TWEEZERS a routine from Ken Brooke's Magic Place...

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Robert Sixx:

Harrison Carroll is a great performer, and his shell game is wonderful. I have watched him perform it a hundred times at trade-shows. He can really bring in a crowd with this routine. He is one of the many great workers to come out of Eddie Fechtor's Forks Hotel.

Frank:

The old guys, back in the 1870's, used to use the natural rubber that came from a printer roller for their peas. The street guys in the 30's and 50's liked to make peas from green pencil erasers.

The latex-covered sponge or hollow latex peas so favored by magicians in the past thirty years are really not so good in real working situations. They tend to wear out quickly, and often lose their grip in the middle of a performance, even on a magicians mat. They are very suspicious-looking if grabbed by the spectators.

I highly recommend the School for Scoundrels Perfect Peas. They are by far the best-looking and most practical peas available. They work on any surface (even glass or marble), never wear out or lose their grip, are washable, and their bright pea-green color shows up extremely well on almost any color performing surface. They work with any set of shells, and they are perfectly round and uniform so that they can be used with droppers.
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I agree that the School for Scoundrels Perfect Peas are the best!
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Thanks Whit,

I will give them a try. Didn't really want to trudge to Home Depot anyway, although in 90 degree heat, weather stripping would be attractively priced. Smile
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Any other new DVDs?
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Jorg Alexander from Flicking Fingers fame has a very interesting Shell and Pea routine in his FFFF lecture notes. You can buy a set at H & R Magic Books. Worth looking for. I think you can even see it in The Magic From Germany available from Stevens Emperium. Good Hunting!

BTW I meant on video. It is not on DVD though. Smile
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Glenn Bishop has a booklet out on his shell routine that isn't bad. And unless I am mistaken, nobody has mentioned Frank Garcia's "All in a Nutshell." This book, now out of print but often available on ebay and used magic book dealers sites, is how I first learned about the shells. Along with Ouellet's Supershells, it's my favorite resource.

I personally do not care for the Cass routine. I've seen him perform it live on several occasions, and the general consensus from the audiences was that he came off as a jerk. Please note, I'm not saying that he IS a jerk--I'm saying that's how the audience perceived him, based on their comments after he left the room!
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Thanks Scott,

You can see video of me doing the shellgame routine including my ending at my web site...

The video is from a TV show that was taped in Salt Lake City called weekdays over 15 years ago!

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Hello to all,

I am going to try to add a three shell routine to my show. I am curious as to which set of shells you would recommend for me to add. Any advice you have on this would be good.

Thanks,

Paul
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Didn't Michael Weber have a book out about the shell game a while back? I think it was called "The Old Army Game" or something like that.
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Hi Scotch and soda,

It doesn't matter what set... The important thing is the routine. Onece you get some kind of a routine down you can use shells, bottle caps and lots of things.

There is a lot of good material written about the shells... Find a routine that you can make your own.

The set... You have to buy one or two and choose the one you like. I have several and like and use them all! And often I cut up a sponge rabbit for a pea and use soda bottle caps.

I hope this helps,

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Just stay clear of the Magic Makers "Goldenshells"! not only because they're a ripoff, they're a bad ripoff!
My current favourite is the "La Maggiore" shells, but you need a mat for them...
Anything from "School for Scoundrels" or "Black Fox" is GOOD!

Saw your video, Glenn, very good! The glass ending is what I use too, but my pea ends up in the bag, switched for a hard one... Usually not necessary, I know, but I'm clean...

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Would you recommend the Black Fox Chopped Walnut shells? I saw those on the School for Scoundrels site, and thought that they might be the best bet, partly because of their low cost. I appreciate all of your help thus far.

Paul
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If I remember correctly, the "Chopped Shells" are made from real walnuts, with a "little something" added. If these are your first set, I would recommend the Street shells or the Black Fox set.
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I claim the glass ending that I use as my own idea and it was one of the things that won me my first magic contest. It was the close up contest at the Houdini convention.

This was back in the early 70's...

Like good ideas this idea has gotten around. I also published it in my book about the shellgame.

And I did the routine as a lecture item. And it will be on my up-coming DVD that will be released about July 1st...

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Hey Glenn,

Good to see you here in the Café. Great DVD by the way - how's progress on the next?

I agree with your advice, same advice I give others... don't focus so much on your gear - that's for collectors...

Instead, focus on your skills, slieghts and routine, spec management, have fun and it will all come together!

Cheers,
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Great to see you too Woodrat...

I love the line about don't focus so much on your gear - that is for the collectors...

Great post...

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On 2004-04-05 10:24, bishthemagish wrote:
I claim the glass ending that I use as my own idea and it was one of the things that won me my first magic contest. It was the close up contest at the Houdini convention.

This was back in the early 70's...

Like good ideas this idea has gotten around. I also published it in my book about the shellgame.


Interesting. Frank Garcia had the glass ending in his 1974 book, "All In A Nutshell". But then again, he was a notorious pincher of other people's ideas. When did you come up with it?

Does anybody else have an earlier published source for the glass ending?

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Frank Garcia had a different ending in which he dropped the pea into the glass at the end of the trick as he palmed it off and faked handed it to a spectator.

Then he said something like "isn't that the nuts" or "isn't that nuts" as the pea fell into the glass.

Very different than the ending I use.

Not to brag I have been doing this ending for my shell routine since before 1975... I have done it for Ed Marlo, Bill Malone, Bob Rath, Don Allan, Jay Marshall, Billy Bishop, Eugene Burger, All of the three sheeters entertainers... The video at my site is about 15 years old and it was recorded in Salt Lake City UT.

And most likely Randy Wakeman, who may have seen me do it in the Houdini Club close up contest back in the late 70's... He was there and that is where Bob Rath saw it!

Ask one of them about Glenn Bishop and the shellgame... It was the effect that I have been most known for in Chicago.

And the ending I use wasn't in print before.

And it is different than the one Frank Garcia did in his book.

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Hello Glenn,
I had a look at your 3 shell video and I am now anxious to see your dvd on it when it comes out. I liked your ending (which is different from the usual glass endings) and I also noticed that you use Tom Osbourne's Version 3 of the l**d and s***l which I have yet to see on video or dvd or explained in recent books and manuscripts. I use this myself and prefer it as it leaves the finger and thumb free. I guess you will be teaching this method on the dvd.
Kind regards,
Martin key
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