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Mike McEathron Regular user Peterborough Ontario Canada 163 Posts |
I don't see a post on this
does anyone have any thought or have recieved the routine? I know it just starting shipping....... Thanks |
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lucavolpe Inner circle Italy - London 3349 Posts |
I ordered!
This is what I was waiting...Is a great routine and will go straight in the variety act on cruise ship! I had a routine with a mouth streamer but this kills!I already have ideas on how to adapt the routine to my own style and Im gad that Tom has released this! Is really a great piece! :)
Luca Volpe
"The Italian Mentalist" https://www.lulu.com/spotlight/lucavolpe http://www.lucavolpe.com |
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takeachance Inner circle 3764 Posts |
But the rights are only for America, I wonder if that could be somewhat expanded to cover other countries
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lucavolpe Inner circle Italy - London 3349 Posts |
I think he should to fix this problem.
I perform on cruise ship with international people so what I need to do? Hope to receive soon an aswer otherwise I need to ask my money back!
Luca Volpe
"The Italian Mentalist" https://www.lulu.com/spotlight/lucavolpe http://www.lucavolpe.com |
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DJG Inner circle The northern hemisphere of Earth 1295 Posts |
I have this and it is GREAT! I have some variations and adaptatiions for guaranteed laughs. It's great, and I will be using it and the variations in the future as well!
Your choices in life can be compared to watching a magic trick: You can continue to believe the illusion in front of you, find the intrigue and desire to learn more, or quit paying attention the moment you feel deceived.
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Paul Rathbun Inner circle Michigan 2543 Posts |
What is this? Is there a link to a demo someone can post?
https://www.penguinmagic.com/p/9160
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Harv Inner circle I'm building a fence with 1127 Posts |
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On 2010-12-12 18:51, Paul Rathbun wrote: Google is your friend! |
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Mike McEathron Regular user Peterborough Ontario Canada 163 Posts |
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Miraclemakers Special user INA 685 Posts |
Also on youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t85mLGg5AWA First time, I saw it on Hocus Pocus. looks funny, great routine..... |
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takeachance Inner circle 3764 Posts |
I'm hoping this has more lines or presentations than those available on public domains. The routine was published in a popular magic mag some years ago. Don't get me wrong, one should always support the original creator if you use their idea, and I want to invest in this. But as I mentioned, I'd like to hear from someone that perhaps for the money there is more than previously released.
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Domino Magic Special user 999 Posts |
I agree with takeachance and would like to know more about the routine that is included here compared to what was previously published in Genii.
Personally I have no interest in the DVD, the autographed photo, the bonus material, the coupon for the mouth coils or the certificate "suitable for framing". If the routine is the same as what appeared in Genii, I'll pass on this. However if there is more to the routine, then I'm interested. The reason I want some more clarification on the routine is that there seems to be a lot of people out there already doing the routine from the Genii. I found several on YouTube. Yes, I realize they don't have the performance rights to do it, but the fact is they are and $200 seems a bit steep to pay for the exact thing others are doing for free. If there's more material to it, great! If not, like I said, I'll pass and just won't use it in my show. |
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Thomas Wayne Inner circle Alaska 1977 Posts |
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On 2010-12-13 09:37, Domino Magic wrote: Yes, $200 is a very steep price to pay for being ethical and honest. TW
MOST magicians: "Here's a quarter, it's gone, you're an idiot, it's back, you're a jerk, show's over." Jerry Seinfeld
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Mac_Stone Inner circle Miami, FL 1420 Posts |
The Bonus material has a signed quarter routine, it's worth the $200.
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Domino Magic Special user 999 Posts |
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On 2010-12-13 22:47, Thomas Wayne wrote: And not buying it at all is a far less price to pay for being ethical and honest. It's definitely a fun routine, but won't make or break my show. Here's another way to look at this. Before The Mind Reading Goose was released, I'm sure there were a bunch of guys out there with goose puppets who did his routine based off what they saw on TV, especially The Magic Castle tv special from over 20 years ago. Back then those puppets were very common and you could pick them up for less than $50. But they didn't have the whole thing. A major gag wasn't on that show. But also handling & construction of the writer gimmick and bladder would have been something you would have had to figure out. So when Spill released it, not only did you get the performance rights, you got a better puppet, all the gags, props and the technical work. It's certainly worth what they're asking because not only are you ethical, BUT you've got other things that improve the routine. It would be obvious as to who had the authorized version and who didn't. That's all I'm asking here. Is there more to the routine than what was previously published in Genii. Maybe that's a 4 minute routine and there is another 3 minutes of bits that he didn't include or has created since then. If that is basically it, it's not worth it to me. |
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RNK Inner circle 7493 Posts |
I would also like to know if there is more to the routine. $200.00 for some patter about toilet paper is a lot of money. But again- we live in a free world so- to each to his/her own- right? But Man- $200.00- that's a good bit of money. Can anybody that HAS this comment on the routine?
Thanks- RNK
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Domino Magic Special user 999 Posts |
One further comment based on RNK's post above. The routine is brilliant. It's funny and will add sure-fire comedy to any show. The demo video shows enough of the routine to give you a very good idea of what you can expect from the routine. Had this been the first time he published it, then I wouldn't hesitate at spending $200 for it. But I feel the routine has lost some of its value because of it being previously published in Genii and is now being performed by many who took it from there.
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INMOTION Regular user Ohio 167 Posts |
I purchased and received this last week.
What you see in the video demo and what you receive are pretty much identical. There are tips and other (bonus) ideas included, however I personally did not find them to be anything special. I like the routine as is, and also the idea that you can change it up to your own liking. Although over priced (IMHO), I will use it. |
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PCoreyB Regular user 139 Posts |
If a routine is published in a magazine like Genie, isn't it done so with the intention that people use it? I didn't see the issue it was in so correct me if I'm wrong, maybe there was some kind of disclaimer, but when I learn a routine from a book or mag, I don't pay the contributor for the rights to perform it...maybe I'm missing something.
That said, I've seen Tom perform this routine and I don't think I could pull it off like he does anyway. A lot of guys could though but the price for an already published routine does seem a bit steep. |
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Paul S Wingham Inner circle 1378 Posts |
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On 2010-12-14 11:58, PCoreyB wrote: I agree. You are essentially putting it in to the public domain by publishing it (albeit you couldn't then re publish as your own). I have to say I have never understood how any action could be taken against you (in the UK) if you were to perfrom an effect without "performance rights" granted. I wouldn't personally out of respect but don't understand what piece of law exists to prevent it. |
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Domino Magic Special user 999 Posts |
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On 2010-12-14 11:58, PCoreyB wrote: This exact topic was discussed a number of years ago here: http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......forum=10. Tom published the routine in Genii because he wanted the credit for it. He had seen a performers who had taken the routine without his permission and wanted to make sure everyone knew it was his routine. There were no performance rights given and that came out in the magazine, I think during a mock interview with "Timmy". Quote:
"We decided that at least we should get credit for our ideas. It certainly doesn't mean that we want anyone else doing our act. How about a little professional courtesy!" It's an ethical issue. |
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