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Michael_MacDonald
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Her performing for a bunch of magicians, she is really nervous but pulls it off.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6rujzpXclE
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On 2013-04-19 17:58, Michael_MacDonald wrote:
Her performing for a bunch of magicians, she is really nervous but pulls it off.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6rujzpXclE


I don't think she's nervous at all. It's part of her presentation that she seems to be struggling to get the cards right. That's more impressive than just rattling off "Your cards are 4H, 8D, KC, etc." without any effort at all.
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On 2010-12-30 23:31, Payne wrote:
Let us not forget Lulu Hearst, The Famous Georgia Magnet.


Annie Abbott was The Little Georgia Magnet. Lulu Hurst was The Georgia Wonder. No one was The Famous Georgia Magnet.

Many women have made great contributions to the art of magic. As far as "groundbreaking" contributions go, I feel sure that over 99% of male magicians have none of those on their resume.
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Wow, lots of names but no creditionals being listed. Not saying there isn't any but could we list what contributions they contributed instead of just names. For example; the girl who was first to pull a hanky from her !@#$%^. There has to more than that as contributions to the magic community? In other words, lets list not just names, but what exactly they have contributed that was unique and useful to the growth of magic.
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Ruth Rice! She's kept Silk King Studios running! That's a feat today!

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Heqq! Bill!!!

I read through this entire thread looking for Dell O'Dell! I never knew her, but, from everything I've heard, she was a real professional!

My friend, Michael CLAXTON, has just written and published a book on her life. She was a real credit to the profession.

At one point, she had at least 3 men working for her as assistants. No one ever saw them!

She was so busy, that she had 3 sets of props. Jay Marshall, in his younger days, was one of the assistants.

She would often have 3 gigs in one evening. Jay's job was to go to a club, set her props, watch her work, and, when she left for her second of three gigs, pack her props, and, go home. I can't remember the other two men. One was a "retired" old pro.

BTW, Suzy Wandas, whom I met in the '60s, at Abbott's GTG, was another fine performer. She was most talented, and the "Wandas Sisters" were headliners in Europe.
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While this is a 3-year-old thread, International Women's Day 2018 just happened, so I would like to nominate American chemist Stephanie Louise Kwolek (July 31, 1923 to June 18, 2014), who was not a magician. She did, however invent Kevlar, and considering how many effects are performed by many thousands of magicians using In******* Th****, and ITRs and Yigal Mesika's Loops, etc., she deserves to be on this list.
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On Dec 31, 2010, ELDEMONIO wrote:
This is a very interesting topic. Does anyone know good books or documentaries of women in magic? I went to the screening of the documentary Women In Boxes at the magic castle and what an informative movie. If you haven't seen the film you can watch it here http://www.snagfilms.com/films/title/women_in_boxes/
I believe the director of the film said they would make a sequel named "women outside boxes" or something to those lines, and it would be about great female performers in magic.


My wife bought me a DVD set which had been a PBS series; "Grand Illusions - The Story of Magic." Part Five of the second disk is "Women Conjurors - From the pioneering greats to the headliners of today." ("Today" being before 1998 when the series was made.)

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0247385/

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Tina Lenert has contributed a great deal to our art.
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Wow. I had not seen this thread previously and that is, on the surface, disappointing to read. Is there more context to Giobbi's quote?

It's been said many times in this thread and others - the magic "fraternity" (ahem) isn't very lady friendly. I am not surprised that women don't participate much - why would they want to put up with constant awkward/sexist/creepy comments? They get that enough everywhere else in the world, why put it up with it in their hobby/professional life as well? I suspect the vast majority simply choose not to participate in the community and forge their own paths.

My wife and I perform a partner sideshow act. We both write material, we both develop acts and help each other improve them. She's the Indestructible Lady (Basically a strong woman act) and we frequently have mothers tell us how inspiring she is to their daughters.

While I have a lot of hope for the generation(s) which are coming into magic currently, I feel we have a long, long way to go until women are even remotely treated equally in magic. Which has always disappointed me - This really should be a merit driven community. If you're a good performer, you're a good performer. Gender has nothing to do with that.
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The problem is; no matter what we present, someone like this guy would say; “Yes, But was it groundbreaking?”

In my opinion, Mllse. Herrmann, in being a female magician who headlined a full evening show, did in fact make a groundbreaking contribution to magic.
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How many men have made groundbreaking contributions to magic in the last two centuries? I think this disagreement all hinges on what people mean by "groundbreaking" and/or whether that word was omitted in the original post. People seem to me to be answering the question, "Who are some very talented female magicians?" or "Which female magicians have made important, novel contributions to magic?" Neither of which seem to me to be the same question. Now, I'm far, far from being a magic historian, but if I were asked how many male magicians had made "groundbreaking" contributions to magic in the last two centuries, I might say 20.
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On Jan 31, 2013, Melies wrote:
Hi everyone,

I'm new to magic (I've only studied it for a year now), but am absolutely passionate about it. However, it's so disheartening to see how frankly sexist the magic world is. Giobbi's apparent skepticism that any woman had ever contributed anything to magic is no different from what men have been saying about women for centuries, about women and, let's see...poetry, drama, literature as such, social science, natural science, philosophy, tennis, chess...you name it. Even comedy, a similar performing art: the late Christopher Hitchens said that only men can be funny (he apparently had never heard of Lucille Ball, Madeline Kahn, Tina Fey, Gilda Radnor, and a hundred other brilliant comedic actors). ...


You do a real disservice to Hitchens' essay, which, despite it's provocative title did not claim that there weren't very funny and talented women. Hitchens referenced numerous funny women in his essay. His point, as I understood it, was that humour plays a very different role in life for men and women, that being funny, able to entertain a women and demonstrate evolutionarily desirable intelligence thru wit, was a necessary ability for men.

The essay is here...

https://www.vanityfair.com/culture/2007/01/hitchens200701
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Dorothy Dietrich has contributed not only a massive amount to escapology; but also a ton to the preservation of Houdini memorabilia (she owns the Houdini museum) but the also the history of magic. Gay blackstone hand crafted the “infamous” magician’s “m” ring (I could be wrong on that, but I’m 99% sure)
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