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The Baldini Inner circle I some how pounded in 2445 Posts |
I have never tried sponge balls, so I am asking , where is the best place to start and learn. Many thanks Dave
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Mr. Mystoffelees Inner circle I haven't changed anyone's opinion in 3623 Posts |
Penguin Magic has a DVD by Jay Noblezada (sp.) that I think has a lot to offer for a start up routine and good instruction on the sleights. For me, the visit to the "master" was worth the price...
If you get into sponge balls, you will no doubt really appreciate the magic within. My follow up choice would be Bill Malone's sponge ball work- very good... Jim
Also known, when doing rope magic, as "Cordini"
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cupsandballsmagic Inner circle 2705 Posts |
Dave,
You wont find a better resource anywhere than Etienne's epic post on this thread: http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......orum=115 Bri |
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24312 Posts |
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On 2010-12-13 20:49, dave wrote: What kind of a magical background do you have so far? Do you do any work with coins, particularly sleight of hand?
"The Swatter"
Founder of CODBAMMC My Chickasaw name is "Throws Money at Cups." www.cupsandballsmuseum.com |
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24312 Posts |
I wish Frank Garcia had lived long enough to record his sponge ball lecture on DVD. His ideas were very simple but effective.
"The Swatter"
Founder of CODBAMMC My Chickasaw name is "Throws Money at Cups." www.cupsandballsmuseum.com |
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The Baldini Inner circle I some how pounded in 2445 Posts |
Thanks to all, I will pick up and study all that has been recommended, my experience in magic goes back over 30 years and like most started out with a box of magic given a present, almost all I do has been mentalism and bizarre, I have basic sleight of hand knowledge. I am looking now to go back to fun old magic, for two reasons, one personal fun and knowledge and two, I have been doing trade shows and using off the shelf stuff with the theme and patter to go with my client and their product, I thought this would be a short run gig, but is expanding, so now I have to expand, I like to do effects that I like to see , I have always loved watching a sponge ball effect, so now I need to learn and then incorporate it it to fit my style, many thanks to all. Dave
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24312 Posts |
Hello Dave:
My favorite sources for sponge ball material are two booklets available from Magic, Inc. One is a small booklet by Frank Garcia, originally published by Gene Gordon. The other is The Sponge Book.
"The Swatter"
Founder of CODBAMMC My Chickasaw name is "Throws Money at Cups." www.cupsandballsmuseum.com |
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Sir Richard Special user 650 Posts |
I have sponge balls. I don't tell everybody that but you guys look okay...!
Sir Richard.
"In the land of Murphy there is but ONE law!"
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Denis Bastible Loyal user Buffalo, New York 293 Posts |
The Frank Garcia (Gene Gordon) booklet is "Sponge Balls- Moves, Routines, Ideas".
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Pete Biro 1933 - 2018 18558 Posts |
Pat Page material is as good as it gets.
STAY TOONED... @ www.pete-biro.com
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Michael Peterson Inner circle is where I'm trapped, because of my 4071 Posts |
Bill Tarr, Now You See It Now You Don't & The Mark Wilson course in magic are good places to start.
Reel Magic Quarterly Episode 4 has an excellent routine by Bill Malone,it's an excellent routine. Mike |
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Perseus Arkomanis Loyal user 208 Posts |
Sponge ball tool box by Steve Dacri...that's a treasure!A great Dvd!
The things that are most real to me are the illusions which I create...everything else is quicksand...
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Denis Bastible Loyal user Buffalo, New York 293 Posts |
Magic by Gosh has the complete Al Goshman sponge ball routine- and much more
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Alan Munro Inner circle Kentwood, Michigan, USA 5952 Posts |
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On 2010-12-16 21:29, demonmagic wrote: I learned my present routine by reverse engineering his "Marsians" routine. If I had to recommend a teacher of sponge ball magic, Steve Dacri would be the guy. |
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Lawrence O Inner circle French Riviera 6811 Posts |
Go to Dariel Fitzkee's trick brain where he lists effects: do a sequence packed with effects properly linking into one another and off the beaten path. Then take any of the modern DVDs for the technical solutions. Then write a non descriptive script.
In other words don't start with methods and sleights, start with effects, showmanship and entertainment.
Magic is the art of emotionally sharing live impossible situations
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Woland Special user 680 Posts |
Lawrence O,
Thank you for that suggestion. That's exactly how the younger Mr. Sands describes the technique George Sands used to create his rope routines (and other magic routines): start out with the script for the magic you desire to perform, and THEN figure out how to make the effects happen. Woland |
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24312 Posts |
Etienne, you have hit the proverbial nail right on the proverbial head.
The best work you can do in any routine is to figure out what you want to happen, then have that happen. Don't use someone else's model. It probably won't fit you as well as your own. Go for the punch instead of being consistent with someone else's work. This was the difference between the way Punx created his material and Borodin created his. Punx usually started with a trick and worked outward to a story. Borodin started with the story and worked out the trick.
"The Swatter"
Founder of CODBAMMC My Chickasaw name is "Throws Money at Cups." www.cupsandballsmuseum.com |
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Angio333 Regular user 130 Posts |
The DVD "Sponge" by Jay Noblezada
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24312 Posts |
Not the best, as we have discussed here and elsewhere.
"The Swatter"
Founder of CODBAMMC My Chickasaw name is "Throws Money at Cups." www.cupsandballsmuseum.com |
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Lawrence O Inner circle French Riviera 6811 Posts |
World's Greatest Magic By The World's Greatest Magicians Sponge Ball - This benchmark collection features just about all of magic’s most enduring and classic sponge effects and routines (except for Magic Ian's diminishing sponge balls and Bill Malone's take on the multiplying sponge balls). It’s a great compendium with many of the top masters in the world of magic teaching their handlings and routines. This variety should avoid newbies lavishly copying one performer's routine.
In this volume of the series, we discover a virtual encyclopedia of sponge ball magic. Routines from thirteen of the best sponge ball workers of all time have been collected in one place for the first time, making this DVD the most comprehensive reference work on performing magic with sponge balls ever produced. Many unique vanishes, moves and stratagems are taught allowing us to build our own routine or to plug into the routine we already do.
Magic is the art of emotionally sharing live impossible situations
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