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What a boring bunch of finales! Seriously, the effects spoken of just sound so boring and lame. I say think big or go home!? Linking rings - the most boring trick on the history of magic, dove pan - the least magical production. Surely we can do better than this! Snowstorm is on the right track as most kids love snow. For me it would be a hands free drawing board or Magellan levitation.
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On 2010-12-25 00:17, Sock Puppet Monkey wrote:
Linking rings - the most boring trick on the history of magic, dove pan - the least magical production.

No offense, but it is not in the trick itself, it is in how it is presented. And remember this is the kid forum. Most children shows are performed in a house. Magicians with creative minds can really entertain children using the two effects you listed above for the ending. The Dove Pan can be used to give out candy at the end of a show. Another way it can be used as an ending effect is to bring back a small pet that was vanished earlier in the show. If presented right, the kids will be excited to see the pet reappear.

My ending effect is the Chair Suspension. I no longer use Mak's. I already made the child the star of the show. I use a more stronger model that support adults. I usually use one of the birthday person's parents. You will see me performing it in 55 seconds of my video: http://www.detroitclown.com
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I don't think that the last trick should necessarily be the best or showiest trick. I prefer something charming, friendly, personable and memorable. Most theatre productions follow this rule. Look at your typical Broadway or MGM musical. The "show stoppers" are not at the end. The crescendo of the show is not at the end. A western does not end with the shootout; it ends with the hero riding off into the beautiful sunset. Star Wars did not end with the Deathstar exploding; it ended with the heroes getting their medals and warmly smiling at one another. The Wizard of Oz did not end with the witch melting, but rather with all the characters huddling around Dorothy's bed.

I think there is something to learn from that.
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On 2010-12-25 00:17, Sock Puppet Monkey wrote:
Linking rings - the most boring trick on the history of magic,


Roy Davenport does a great routine with the linking rings and it is definitely NOT boring.

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On 2010-12-25 13:14, Starrpower wrote:
I don't think that the last trick should necessarily be the best or showiest trick. I prefer something charming, friendly, personable and memorable. Most theatre productions follow this rule. Look at your typical Broadway or MGM musical. The "show stoppers" are not at the end. The crescendo of the show is not at the end.


Very true. I think Dan Harlan mentions this in his packs flat plays big series.

Mark
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My last magic trick is cut, and restore usually done with the mom of the birthday child. I know it is a rather simple trick, but my version is pretty good. After that I do my full audience participation club juggling finale.
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I end with a bit of ventriloquism. And Starrpower is right; the ending should not be the flashiest part of your show. It should bring the focus back to you, as the performer, and round off the show rather than end it on a bang.
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[quote]Roy Davenport does a great routine with the linking rings and it is definitely NOT boring.
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Gotta admit, his routine is something remarkable. I would love to see it on DVD somewhere so I can show other people what can be done with the trick. He's really taken it to the next level (for magicians anyway).
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Try Dreambag.

- Packs small, and flat
- Plays big (You can have a large silk produced from the bag that says "The End", "Happy Holiday", etc)
- 100% angle-proof
- Easy to setup and pack-down (Less than 1 min setup)
- Proven to amaze even the adults

So what's the bad about Dreambag? I can think of only one: The bag is made of PAPER and it tears, if you did not handle the bag properly.
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Hey Joseph! Haven't seen you in the LDs for an age! Hope you're well.

These threads are a bit weird someone ask what's a good finale and everyone names what they use as a finale. What will work for you won't often be what works for everyone else.

There are thousands of effects that meet your specifications. Think about how you would like to finish a show and then llook at how you might achieve that.
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Produce a rabbit and your work is done.
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I normally close with the snow animator.

Sometimes I like to do it with the fan but I like to stand with the kids so that they can get the "snow" on them. I realize that the kids go crazy when I do this but also blocks me in terms of presentation. Anyway, parents get a good picture and the kids really enjoy it. I could even say that it is stronger than with the snow animator.
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On 2010-12-25 00:17, Sock Puppet Monkey wrote:
Linking rings - the most boring trick on the history of magic, dove pan - the least magical production.

No offense, but it is not in the trick itself, it is in how it is presented. And remember this is the kid forum. Most children shows are performed in a house. Magicians with creative minds can really entertain children using the two effects you listed above for the ending. The Dove Pan can be used to give out candy at the end of a show. Another way it can be used as an ending effect is to bring back a small pet that was vanished earlier in the show. If presented right, the kids will be excited to see the pet reappear.

My ending effect is the Chair Suspension. I no longer use Mak's. I already made the child the star of the show. I use a more stronger model that support adults. I usually use one of the birthday person's parents. You will see me performing it in 55 seconds of my video: http://www.detroitclown.com

Mike,

I loved your video. You know how to entertain for sure. Thanks for sharing.

Patrick

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Very true. I think Dan Harlan mentions this in his packs flat plays big series.

Mark

Mark,

I love Dan Harlan's stuff. You are right, he does Deja VooDoo and Mind your hands in the middle. Those are his big tricks. I even believe that he says that the last trick shouldn't be your greatest and goes into a card trick of some kind. Awesome stuff.

Patrick
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I often end with rabbit appearance, although I'm also using that at beginning of show these days. Other closers I have used which work well include: for kids - Duke's Dye Version, square circle production of candy (or gum from Wolf's ABC Gumball Recombobulator), or, another great one for slightly older kids (over 6 or 7) is the Red Carpet (Jason Palter - a natural closer). I can also see how Passing Water would be a great closer. For mixed children/adults, I have used Scott Alexander's Shattered (telling kids not to try at home) and, lately, Colin McLeod's "Make the ESP Cards Match" (on his Opening Minds DVD).
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It's not my opinion, or even Dan Harlan's. History is on my side. Going back to vaudeville, the best act was always second to last, NEVER the closer. No movie, TV show, or live act worth it's salt ends on the highest note. Make it real for your audience. Allow them the opportunity to absorb what they just experienced.
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Interesting that you should mention that Starrpower. I have a lot interest in vaudeville and was aware that the last act was something that could basically be ignored by the folks who were leaving the theatre. It was called 'playing to the haircuts'. Usually the truly forgettable acts closed the show. I didn't think about this consciously when I framed my act, but it's how it worked out. My best and funniest bit is next to last. My last bit is change bag routine with help from the birthday child. It gets a good response and closes the show with good feelings and the focus on the child, but it's not my strongest thing. The routine just before is my best.
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I close my show with the French Arm Chopper.
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I have played around with many things. I get the absolute best results from the drawing board. Kids go all quiet...and then they go nuts.
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On 2010-12-29 23:11, Starrpower wrote:
It's not my opinion, or even Dan Harlan's. History is on my side. Going back to vaudeville, the best act was always second to last, NEVER the closer. No movie, TV show, or live act worth it's salt ends on the highest note. Make it real for your audience. Allow them the opportunity to absorb what they just experienced.


That, as Mr P has also observed, is a very good point!

If you're ever writing an action movie never forget that scene were everyone sits around the back of an ambulance exchanging witticisms and making call backs while white-coated extras drape blankets over shoulders.
You can't send them into the lobby directly after seeing someone ride a motorbike out of a helicopter to blow up a crane that drops cargo ship on top of the baddie who's pointing a rocket launcher at his girlfriend, there'd be mayhem!

(I've just reread the thread and I'd missed SP's first post with 4 movie analogies in it, I don't think we really need another one but I like it so it stays in)

So anyhow, I agree that one should "allow them the opportunity to absorb what they just experienced." but I don't think this necessarily means you need to include another effect.
I view this time period as apres-finale. Short effects could work such as the kicker to your running gag or as Mr P suggested a quick interactive trick with the birthday child but I prefer just to wrap up verbally with call-backs and thanks, then getting a round of applause for the birthday kid sometimes I make a balloon for the birthday child in that period as well.

I would caution going into an involved trick or something totally new as it could end up being anti-climatic. Yes you need to wind down and wrap up but it's still important to have the finale fresh in their heads. It is said that audiences always remember the first and last thing you do, I've found this to be quite true.

George
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