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jdmagic357 Special user 737 Posts 
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On 2010-12-31 19:07, mastermindreader wrote: Great minds think alike. Happy New Year Bob.
Just cause they say it, doesn't make it true.
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Roger Kelly Inner circle Kent, England 3332 Posts
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On 2010-12-31 18:47, charliemagic wrote: Dr Todd, who set up the British Society of Mystery Entertainers, uses one diary in the manner you state. It works well for him, but I'm going with the creator - it surely HAS to be a significant date to the spectator. (I just can't see the point of asking them for such and then moving by one on those 50% of occasions.) At least my wallet is out there from the outset (with card in it shown behind drivers licence) - Not too fussed about the diary being shown from the off. When they see it, full of other junk-like appointments and personal notes, no-one even considers that there might be two! |
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DrTodd Inner circle 1976 Posts
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On 2010-12-31 11:35, mastermindreader wrote: Yup! They never ask! |
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mastermindreader 1949 - 2017 Seattle, WA 12586 Posts
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It seems that some mentalists think that you need to have the diary in view from the outset to "prove" you are only using one diary. That is really "magician's thinking." Most people assume you would need dozens of diaries if you were going to cover all of the possible combinations - it's something that they mentally rule out if they ever think about it in the first place. (which, I have found, they don't)
Good thoughts, Bob |
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topchange52 Regular user 178 Posts
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A presentation I've used in the past is to give someone a pack of cards before any date is chosen, afer selecting the date and the card that falls on that date they remove the cards from the case and count them face up looking for "their"card. They count 51 without finding their selection. You then remove it from your wallet/pocket or wherever you want as the "missing" card. Simple for those that use Chronologue. The appropriate 4 cards are removed from the deck and 3 duplicates of non descript "other" cards are added. You therefore have a pack totalling 51 with none of possible selections present!
Feel free to use it if you wish. Regards..................... |
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mastermindreader 1949 - 2017 Seattle, WA 12586 Posts
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Interesting idea, but IMHO adding a pack of cards to the presentation reduces the whole thing to "just another card trick" and subtantially weakens it impact as a demonstration of pure synchronicity.
Good thoughts, Bob |
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Roger Kelly Inner circle Kent, England 3332 Posts
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Bob, I'd hardly use the phrase, "humble opinion." You are the brains behind the thing for goodness sake. You have every right to have any opinion and no need to be humble about it.
 It's one of those effects that simply doesn't need messing with.
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david12345 Special user 714 Posts
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Seems to be a lot of running when not being chased...With Bob's original presentation the wallet can be/is left in full view (I understand now you use the jumbo cards) before a date is selected. Its not illogical or uncomfortable to pull out the calendar after a date is chosen. Its quite obvious to the audience that you don't have 365 calendars on you (Is that how many you would need?)
Why would you want to take away the personalized and emotional experience to the audience that a significant date VS a random date would bring about. I am fully content with the presentation as is, and I have said in other related threads, of course entirely IMHO, that Chronologue is perfect the way it is and always elicits strong reactions and gasps when I perform it. David |
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rbattle Loyal user 266 Posts
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Just want to say thanks again Bob
Robert |
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mastermindreader 1949 - 2017 Seattle, WA 12586 Posts
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Robert-
You're welcome! Bob |
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Reuben Dunn Inner circle Has a purple ribbon wraped around my 1592 Posts
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I'd just like to recommend to any concerned and interested people, that the Chronolouge routine and explination that is both on the DVD/Book really should be carved in stone, and left alone.
I have to confess to almost wanting to cringe whenever I hear of someone trying to "improve" on the original. Although to be honest, that didn't happen after I read of a modifiation that Bob did to the routine. Since we're out in the open here, I'm not gonna tell you. It's a clean effect, I still use the 2004 diary that I set up when I was getting started. I've had no comments about it; after all I'm not showing the cover to the audience, but am flicking the pages to show that there are card names written on each page. It's a great stand alone, or a lead in to another effect. I use it as an introduction to a short 'basic' Si Stubbins routine that I use. Why try to make the wheel rounder than it already is? |
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equivoque Special user 862 Posts
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Does a diary with just dates and no year exist?
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mastermindreader 1949 - 2017 Seattle, WA 12586 Posts
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On 2011-01-23 22:55, equivoque wrote: Yes, you can get blank "Any Year" diaries. Bob |
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Christopher Caldwell New user Scottsdale, Arizona 87 Posts
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FYI, here's a really classy "birthday" book that would work. (I've used this one for the Elmsley diary effect for years, and certainly it can be used for the terrific Chronologue, too. )
http://www.aspinaloflondon.com/eshop-cat......ack-calf Hope it helps. Christopher |
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Roger Kelly Inner circle Kent, England 3332 Posts
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On 2011-01-24 00:44, Christopher Caldwell wrote: They are indeed top notch Christopher. I had a 'look' at those some time ago but only the price put me off (£70 incl shipping for what was necessary) when I had been using 49p diaries. (AND - its an expensive option if you make a mistake!) I might go back and have another look now - because they are SIX dates to a page, and whilst its not TOO important, that does tend to disguise the pattern a lot more than the usual seven days to a page. (or worse, FOUR!) |
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alpha alex Special user 774 Posts
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The only time I did mine was because I needed to translate it to my language
and that was it.. |
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equivoque Special user 862 Posts
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What about using these?
http://www.amazon.com/Fortune-Telling-Bi......2&sr=8-7 four dates per 2 page spread. Any mathematical reason not to use these? |
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pourang65 Regular user Paris, France 192 Posts
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I've been using Moleskin week diary's. I don't worry much about the year. the way you present the experience, the audience will focus on the day and the month. I've been using this for my opener for years. Actually I have 2 sets of diary with different four cards, when I use it for people that have already seen the effect.
I don't know what Bob will think of a little add : Moleskin diary has a little pocket at the end, I put one of the f...e cards in this pocket, I have one chance out of four to have a double miracle. anyways, thanks Bob for this wonderful effect ! Pourang (regards from Paris!)
Cheers
Pourang |
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Roger Kelly Inner circle Kent, England 3332 Posts
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On 2011-01-25 08:40, pourang65 wrote: I do something similar for that Double Whammy experience. Peter Scarlett's Pimpernel Notecase (actually a very real looking hip bill-fold wallet) allows for this. I show the 'one card' up front behind my ID card in the window. They can see that there's only one (F) card there. (The other three are behind the similar window (PN users will know what I mean) So, 25% of the time, the specator can remove their Ace of Clubs in this instance. If its one of the others, no bother, I remove it. To them, its the same card coming from the same window. There seems to be a theme developing here, and in other threads, that most, (it seems to me anyway) are using this as an opener. I must say, I usually do. It's also one of two things I keep in my wallet (PN IS my wallet) all the time for 'that moment.' (the other is Eight Card Brainwave.) Can't praise Chronologue highly enough. Its a true gem with a nice story that entertains! |
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kissdadookie Inner circle 4275 Posts
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On 2011-01-01 12:49, mastermindreader wrote: From the way I see it, demonstrating to the spec as to what you want him/her to do is proof enough that you are using just one diary without having to explicitly point it out. Having to go through the spiel of "there's only one diary and it's been out in the open this whole time" to me really detracts from the routine's premise and also has the annoying side effect of drawing attention to the importance of the diary. Remember folks, as Bob has mentioned time and time again, the plot is about synchronicity, a purely mental synchronicity. The plot isn't synchronicity between a deck of cards and a diary 
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