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ugdini13
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If you want an idea of a pretty routine, check out Eric De Camp's 3 coin vanish and reproduction on his site. http://www.Ericdecamps.com The routine is not that hard to figure out, but he does it so smoothly. A true master


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Pretty neat but his "Ring & Rope" effect there is just beautiful stuff. Smile

De Camps is a wonderful close-up magician, he's the whole package. Always admired his work, especially his presentation skills. Glad to hear his name mentioned here. Smile
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Even with the twists and turns this thread is taking.....I am learning SO much, and am grateful for all the resources and information.......keep it coming!
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Kelly -

That three coin vanish and reproduction by Eric Decamps is slick...thanks for the post!
To see a difficult thing lightly handled gives the impression of the impossible.
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A 3 coin vanish from some time back..... and a reproduction that is quite funky! Hope this cheers up the thread! It's 2011.....a happy and magical year!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbajvXNcEZA&feature=related

Hope this sparks some ideas for you coin fanatics!

Cheers and greetings from sunny Manila!

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Haha. That was awesome, Rannie. I especially loved the kicker ending. Thanks for sharing.
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Sure cheered me up on a Saturday night Smile
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I'd like to mention again the concept of using "non-visble coins." These are coins hwos enatural state is to be Non-visible in our plane of existance, but can be coaxed into visibility by warmth or motion -- but may slight out of visibility at any time. Within this theme coins can vanish and reappear as often as you like -- even in a spectator's hand where they are "kept warm."

An audience readily accepts this concept and handles these weird coins in a respectful manner. It can also explain the use of strange coins as they were just left lying around by some former careless magician. Thus, the coins themselves are magicial and the magician only a fella that can sense where they are and "bring them to light."

Such a "backstory" actually changes the balance of Anticipation and Surprise for the spectator, allowing for different ending for any coin routine shown more than once.
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There was a cool Steven King Book, the Langoliers, where people went back in time, and then forward in time. At the end the people catch up to the present and pop into existance. Might make for some good patter possibilities.
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In addition to having specs accept what we do as magic or at least magical, we sometimes give them absolutely "whacked out" premises to swallow as well as we execute routines. Sorcery and super science themes often amount to a tough sell for adults as least. Overthinking about patter themes can ruin otherwise very nice routines if mechanics are just so so. I'm just saying....
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For the most part, I'm with you. I try to make my patter reflect personal experiences, or to something the audience can relate to . Sometimes just a play by play works. However, there is certainly space for patter lines relating to far out premises. just the thought of making a person believe a coin is appearing or dissapearing is a stretch. The patter might be no less a stretch, but may fit the presentation. Fir example, Doug Brewer on the NYCMS DVDs relates to stories of the transporter in Star Trek. I've used patter about making a wish and have it come true. However, I agree with your assesment that if the machanics are not good, it doesn't matter what tou say.
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This is turning into a different thread...sorry, but an interesting topic here.

Allegory, metaphor, simile tend to work more effectively for me than "cause and effect" especially if the cause of the magic approaches the absurd. Some of the cause and effects I hear as the magic unfolds is often simply ludicrous and dismissed quickly by me or the specs.

A challenge also is often that the coin magic routine is over before one can develop really interesting patter.

Different strokes...
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Quote:
On 2011-01-04 23:00, Earful wrote:
Have been playing around with a couple of 3 coin vanish routines...


What is the routine about?
What is your objective in making the coins vanish?
If not your objective - how do you ordinarily keep the coins from vanishing?
...to all the coins I've dropped here
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I am putting together what might be called a beginners medium length coin routine. So far it starts with a visual 3 fly...and then....here we are...with this post. This is really hard for me...because I am a tad overwhelmed with all the material. And I am like a sponge...and take it all in! Sure is fun:-)
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While you may be a sponge, what's it about as far as your audience is concerned?
...to all the coins I've dropped here
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Just enjoy Earful.... just be like the sponge that you are now. Gather all you can.... learn and understand HOW and more importantly WHY magic works. Practice and develop as time goes by. When you are ready... your audience will be in for a treat! You said the most important thing.... FUN! Keep it fun and enjoyable... It is the only way you can give enjoyment. While it is also important to learn technical things and theoretical stuff..... they are put to waste if not applied in real performances. People are different everywhere you go. One of the most important things to learn is how to read your audience. There are some who would not care less if you have a great story line... Some might even find it corny... or find these outrageous patters as insulting to their intelligence. There are some who would see something really magical, but see it as a puzzle. What works for Harry, may not work for Mary... There are fantastic guidelines , but flexibility is key. This is an exciting phase. Best of luck and stay MAGICAL! Your audience will be waiting patiently for you!

Cheers and Mabuhay from SUNNY MANILA!

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Like I said previously.....and Thanks Rannie (envious of your winter in Manila, used to live in Okinawa).....I have learned and gained insight from each and every one of you. I am starting to feel like I fit in this fellowship here. I started learning coin sleights from Bob Brown many years ago, and although I didn't then, now I want to display my mysteries for others. As far as my initial post.....I need to make sure whatever I do, it needs to make some sense.
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Just to say that I worked something that I have not see in print, but Mister Rubinstein can say more:

I work the Retention Open Palm Steal from the Dr Rubinstein. And I find that I can maket this retention with two, three or more coin in edge grip.
It looks natural and take of the ideas of hiding coins.

Is it something new?
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Hi, I am intrigued by what you are doing. Edge grip position involves holding something between the tips of the thumb and second finger, with other coins hidden clipped by the edges with the thumb and second fingers. Since the action of doing the ROPS move involves grasping the coin to be stolen with the tips of the thumb and second fingers, and bringing the coin under the thumb with the second finger so that it ends up on fingertip rest, I have difficulty understanding how you can execute the move. HOWEVER, I do the move all the time with coins in nowhere palm position, which will free up the thumb and second finger to do their thing.
Available at dealers EVERYWHERE - RUBINSTEIN COIN MAGIC- The biggest book on coin magic since Bobo's Modern Coin Magic, and the most important since David Roth's Expert Coin Magic! Hardbound, 500 pages, 20 chapters of state of the art coin magic illustrated with 930 crisp photos! A contribution chapter from over 20 of the world's top coin magicians! This will be the book against which all future books on coin magic will be measured! Already called a Modern Classic!!
And if anyone (USA ONLY) needs some of the coin stuff used in the book, shoot me an email at rubinsteindvm@aol.com as I have some limited supplies of coins and props used in the book.
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I think it depends on the setting you're performing in. Close proximity, I'd say bring them back with non-gimmicked coins. This way they get to examine them if they choose. If you're further from your audience, I'd say just vanish them using awesome gimmicks.
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