Michael you are rigt. Not the good name. I say edge grip because it's like a edge grip but without holding something. Like a curl palm with the thumb et the edge of the stack. Because all the routines make use of the edge grip so I don't want to change the coin position in the hand.

Glad to see that I 'm not the only one to think at this.

Thanks Eric....it will be mostly stand-up parlor style (like in the front room of a home)....to begin with. I plan on a table/Bar version as well......

I totally agree about asking folks to take any "whacked out" premise seriously as awkward.

On the other side here's part of a script I wrote for a coin production sequence that starts when you take out a coin purse, open it and find nothing, then go fishing in your pocket to look for it: "I'd like to show you something with a special coin. It's always ahead of the game appears at fingertips of hand while other hand is reaching into pocket. This next coin ... and those are the three coins, well four when you remember where you put it".

The above sets the stage for coins appearing, going invisible, not being where you are looking etc yet also makes it pretty clear that you are also well aware that they know such can't be true. So it's like a joke where they get to laugh along with the action instead of punch lines.

Getting to the end of the paragraph quoted - I feel it useful to caution against a focus on mechanics and instead suggest a focus on clear evident effect.

Great stuff Jonathan.....I DO use a coin purse....and I really don't want something too corny with respect to a story-line. This does help immensely with a logical sequence....this could even be mimed to music......hmmmm....

Jonathan -

Beautiful magic results from this kind of thinking...clever! This is a total opposite to what I was referring to above.